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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2008, 23:36:21 »
Its illegal to sell one for road use! They can be sold for 'off road' use. The grey area comes when its illegal to sell them but not to fit them?
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #31 on: August 26, 2008, 09:02:02 »
To be fair, it's not that grey an area.

As far as I'm aware (and I have had this discussion with a few people) it is illegal for manufacturers to produce none type approved bumpers with a-bars, or a-bars in general after a specific date.  Any they had on their shelves up and to that date are fair game for being sold and/or fitted.

Hence the theory is that, if people stop making them then the ones on the shelves will sell out in due course (not to mention that the manufacturers are likely to be reluctant to sell anything they still have at this point for fear of reprisals) and hence they become rare / obsolete very quickly.

Aside from disagreeing with the law itself, it is quite an elegant solution.
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #32 on: August 26, 2008, 12:43:12 »

As for the driving of a stripped down Landy, not a problem, providing the door bottoms are in place.
Again, I wouldn't have a problem with it, although the idea of insects and road gravel flicking into the face is a bit beyond me.

Ahh, well, you see officer, its like this...  I actually remove the whole door (Lightweight ones just lift off) and that is how I was driving when traffic cop said it was ok.

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2008, 13:05:43 »

As for the driving of a stripped down Landy, not a problem, providing the door bottoms are in place.
Again, I wouldn't have a problem with it, although the idea of insects and road gravel flicking into the face is a bit beyond me.

Ahh, well, you see officer, its like this...  I actually remove the whole door (Lightweight ones just lift off) and that is how I was driving when traffic cop said it was ok.

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Ditto. Mine is always driven and MOT'd with no doors..........

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #34 on: August 26, 2008, 18:18:01 »
have you been back to the fascist oppressors hq for a definitive answer yet then steve?
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #35 on: August 27, 2008, 11:18:07 »
I went to the main station on saturday night and there was noone to speak to in person but the receptionist put me onto someone on the phone who said that as long as my tyres are legal he can't see a problem.

I also went to Tong on Sunday and one of the marshals there is also a copper, he also said that he didn't know of a law regarding visibility of the tyre from the front.

Thinking about it the receptionist gave me a number for traffic law so I'll try them and see what they say.

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #36 on: August 27, 2008, 13:02:19 »
While we are talking about this sort of stuff, what about bush wires?  I always thought they were illegal but I've seem a number of 4x4s with them on.
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #37 on: August 27, 2008, 17:43:05 »
While we are talking about this sort of stuff, what about bush wires?  I always thought they were illegal but I've seem a number of 4x4s with them on.

They would probably fall into the 'sharp/jagged edges likely to cause harm' category. Worst case scenario is that a pedestrian/cyclist gets clipped by the vehicle, and caught on the wires that would then act like cheese wire. Not pleasant. My advice would be if you are on the road, unclip them. Stops you getting done under the con and use rules.


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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #38 on: August 27, 2008, 18:24:21 »
I suspect my old Sammy would have had trouble if front view of the tyres was a problem, you could see *all* of the tyre! I won't mention that they protruded about 3" from the arches, rubbed the chassis on full lock and the chassis was exposed (sharp edges?) at the front  :oops:
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #39 on: August 27, 2008, 21:32:56 »
While we are talking about this sort of stuff, what about bush wires?  I always thought they were illegal but I've seem a number of 4x4s with them on.

Have you seen the lift shaft scene from the 1st Omen film?

If they aren't illegal, they should be!
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #40 on: August 27, 2008, 22:57:44 »
While we are talking about this sort of stuff, what about bush wires?  I always thought they were illegal but I've seem a number of 4x4s with them on.

Have you seen the lift shaft scene from the 1st Omen film?

If they aren't illegal, they should be!

It's ok Not many lifts are fitted with Bush Wires  :lol:  :lol:
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #41 on: August 28, 2008, 02:58:08 »
Total Rubbish

tell him to try it and see you in court ....

If it passes a MOT it's legal ...

The only thing you need to make sure is theres nothing sharp on the front I think there is a minimum 3mm rad is as sharp as you can go.

as for the height , I don't think 3" is much compared with some
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Never had a problem with mine. Comes complete with sticky out tyres, bush wires, obscured front number plate and more jagged edges than a 10 car pile up. Never been pulled in almost 5 years of driving it, touch wood......


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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #42 on: August 28, 2008, 14:06:09 »
steve your a bad bad boy  but your truck is mean and no one messes about with you :twisted:

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #43 on: August 30, 2008, 06:22:03 »
Would I be right in thinking that a pick axe fitted to the front wing might be considered possibly dangerous to pedestrians :oops:

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #44 on: September 01, 2008, 10:12:56 »
Would I be right in thinking that a pick axe fitted to the front wing might be considered possibly dangerous to pedestrians :oops:

Possibly and I'm sure an insurance company would try and use it as an excuse not to payout in the event of a claim.
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2008, 19:45:32 »
Would I be right in thinking that a pick axe fitted to the front wing might be considered possibly dangerous to pedestrians :oops:

Possibly and I'm sure an insurance company would try and use it as an excuse not to payout in the event of a claim.

I'd have to agree with that. Insurance companies will do anything to get away without paying out. The robdogs!

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #46 on: September 02, 2008, 19:16:34 »
If thats the case, then the pedestrian must of been carrying it officer  ;)

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #47 on: September 02, 2008, 20:11:32 »
Cheered my self up reading this... what a load of crap... And I'm Plod like LSP

No matter how high your lift, if someone fall infront of your car you are going to gun them over... if it lifted there is a chance you will go over them with out touching them!
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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #48 on: September 03, 2008, 02:56:36 »
Cheered my self up reading this... what a load of crap... And I'm Plod like LSP

No matter how high your lift, if someone fall infront of your car you are going to gun them over... if it lifted there is a chance you will go over them with out touching them!

I couldn't agree more. Of course if you have a set of really chunky M/T tyres on, they may just get caught in the tread and no harm done!
I'd rather have a car that is lifted, than a blinged up, lowered Saxo that gets grounded if it goes over a fag paper! No offence to Saxo owners intended. :twisted:

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Re: Legality of my car!!
« Reply #49 on: September 03, 2008, 15:03:45 »
It was to do with the sale of such items, old stock could still be sold. But no new items could be manufactured or imported into the country. If already fitted or owned, then you are still able to use. Not sure how this covers second hand bullbars and A-bars of a non foam veriaty.

 






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