anti roll bar removell

[j carvell]

ive been told to remove my anti roll bars to make disco better offroad any advice greatley appricated

[boss]

cut them  :lol:

no dont.

i did it....but all in all not a good idea. it will be better off road but if its anything like mine it will handel like turd on road :lol:

[bambamjj]

dont do it unless your going extreme off road.  removed mine and found 95% of the time the off roading was not extreme enough, or i wasnt trying hard enough, road handling was just as boss said.

[Range Rover Blues]

Put it this way, I have 3 ARB on Blue.  With big tyres and a 2" lift I like it to go where it's pointed.

Besides, the RTI on a RRC is about the same with or without them (and  a Disco is the same thing).
So unless you seriously modify be careful.

[mobi]

i removed mine. yes it's a bit softer on the road but no where near as bad as you lot are making it out to be. just like to point out that the pre 94 did not have arb's on. :roll:
the main reson i took mine off is that the link arms flip over and i was going though a new set of D bushes every time i went off road. (never had the problem with the front one)

[Disco Matt]

I wouldn't bother. Mine has now covered some pretty tricky lanes and to be honest they've never caused me a problem. I think someone on here said the extra articulation is only an inch or two?

Terrain reading will solve most problems, and it allows you to keep the settled on-road handling!

[Range Rover Blues]

i removed mine. yes it's a bit softer on the road but no where near as bad as you lot are making it out to be. just like to point out that the pre 94 did not have arb's on. :roll:
the main reson i took mine off is that the link arms flip over and i was going though a new set of D bushes every time i went off road. (never had the problem with the front one)

Earlier RRC had stiffer radius arm bushes to limit the body roll, these were introduced with the 3.5 EFi, when power (thus speed) increased.  ARB were intorduced with the CSK then the 3.9, when power went up again.

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you havn't "lifted" your truck properly, you need to space the ARB mounts downwards too, otherwise the bar is at a very acute angle and won't work properly anyway.

[mobi]

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you havn't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

[eugene]

my 200tdi has arbs on it so id agree with rrb on this one  :D

[Range Rover Blues]

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you havn't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

Whatever :roll:

[bambamjj]

Once again agree with RRB, my 200 had ARB and kept on flipping up, got some 50x50 box section longer bolts and never had a problem again  :D

[Jas278]

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you haven't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

Whoops , I think you Owe an apology , as you are the one............. :-#...talking from the wrong place

[mentalmoshio sophs V8i]

on and set to the right height with lifts on

[mobi]

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you haven't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

Whoops , I think you Owe an apology , as you are the one............. :-#...talking from the wrong place

you'll be waiting a long time, as the "now you are talking out of your ass" is for saying i have not lifted my truck properly.
maybe "SOME" did have them fitted as an extra!

[mobi]

1993
For markets where high taxes made the V8i unsaleable but customers wanted petrol engines, Land Rover next introduced a 2-litre four-cylinder engine developed from the T-series used in Rover cars. Discoverys with this were known as Mpi models (the letters stood for Multi-point injection), and the engine remained available until 1996 – always with manual transmission – although it was never a strong seller.
Meanwhile, the V8i models switched to the more powerful 3.9-litre engine already used in the Range Rover. Also made available for the 1994 models introduced in mid-1993 was the combination of Tdi diesel engine and four speed automatic gearbox. This was also the year when the Freestyle Choice option of front-and-rear anti-roll bars with alloy wheels on lower-profile tyres brought improved on-road handling to the Discovery. And from the spring, customers could buy a Discovery Commercial, based on the three-door model and as stylish a van as any business could wish for.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/land-rover/discovery/intro


waiting :-k :-k :-k :-k

[Chris Putt]

A mate of mine who did his dissertation into suspension says that ARBs on beam axles make no difference. I personally dont really know but he did do rather a lot of research into the subject.....

[j carvell]

alright ladies hand bags down now do you advise taking them off as its gt a 2 inch lift and i toe a caravan would it make a difference with towing

[bobtailed disco]

from experience don't remove. i fitted a 2 inch lift and removed the anti roll bar and towed a 3.5 tone trailer, it was scary all over the road so re fitted the bar and much better.

[Disco_Stu]

I have a 2" lift also. I run one anti-roll bar on the front, none on the back.

Mine destroyed its bushes, inverted and bent the very first time I articulated my +2 shocks, as pointed out earlier, I hadn't spaced it out. I have some spacers now and an unused set of polybushes for an arb but have never got around to re-fitting it. I've never noticed a problem not having one on the rear, I'm considering removing my front one soon to see what thats like. You can always put it back on if it handles really badly.

Stu.

[ben_haynes]

1993
For markets where high taxes made the V8i unsaleable but customers wanted petrol engines, Land Rover next introduced a 2-litre four-cylinder engine developed from the T-series used in Rover cars. Discoverys with this were known as Mpi models (the letters stood for Multi-point injection), and the engine remained available until 1996 – always with manual transmission – although it was never a strong seller.
Meanwhile, the V8i models switched to the more powerful 3.9-litre engine already used in the Range Rover. Also made available for the 1994 models introduced in mid-1993 was the combination of Tdi diesel engine and four speed automatic gearbox. This was also the year when the Freestyle Choice option of front-and-rear anti-roll bars with alloy wheels on lower-profile tyres brought improved on-road handling to the Discovery. And from the spring, customers could buy a Discovery Commercial, based on the three-door model and as stylish a van as any business could wish for.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/land-rover/discovery/intro


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what is the point you are trying to make?????

the 300TDi did not come out untill late 1994!!!

and you posted up saying ARB's were introdused in 1993

so makes your Quote Points <edit>

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you havn't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

Sorry but like EVERY ONE else im with RRB on this one

[ben_haynes]

J carvell

i would suggest trying for your self with out, as i have driven a couple of vehicle with and with out and some handle like a Turd and some handle fine

and if its any use i saw on who inverted his ARB on the axle to stop it inverting its self

[RichardM]

the 300TDi did not come out untill late 1994!!!

Mine was registered in June 1994...hardly late...

[mobi]

1993
For markets where high taxes made the V8i unsaleable but customers wanted petrol engines, Land Rover next introduced a 2-litre four-cylinder engine developed from the T-series used in Rover cars. Discoverys with this were known as Mpi models (the letters stood for Multi-point injection), and the engine remained available until 1996 – always with manual transmission – although it was never a strong seller.
Meanwhile, the V8i models switched to the more powerful 3.9-litre engine already used in the Range Rover. Also made available for the 1994 models introduced in mid-1993 was the combination of Tdi diesel engine and four speed automatic gearbox. This was also the year when the Freestyle Choice option of front-and-rear anti-roll bars with alloy wheels on lower-profile tyres brought improved on-road handling to the Discovery. And from the spring, customers could buy a Discovery Commercial, based on the three-door model and as stylish a van as any business could wish for.

http://www.rimmerbros.co.uk/rimmer/land-rover/discovery/intro


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what is the point you are trying to make?????

the 300TDi did not come out untill late 1994!!!

and you posted up saying ARB's were introdused in 1993

so makes your Quote <edit>

If you are having the links flip over then obviously you havn't "lifted" your truck properly,

now you are talking out of your ass. :twisted:
200 didn't have arb's so the 300 doesn't need them, it's the extra height that gives the body the extra roll.

Sorry but like EVERY ONE else im with RRB on this one

EVERY ONE  now that it is <edit>.
and you need to go back to school and learn the read, IT SAYS Choice option.  (TRANSLATION NOT STANDARD)

[lurch_917]

as rrb says leave them on  if you have a lift just spacethe mounts out to match or the nuckels have a habbit of turning  i have a question though would you be abel to space them on standard hight springs to get a bit more articulation

[freeagent]

Everytime this subject comes up it turns into a playground scrap... just like the 'can i remove the particle filter/ cat downpipe on my disco' question.

[karlo]

Only one answer take em off if ya don't like it put em back on, simple.

[freeagent]

yep, if your truck doesn't weigh 3 tonnes, and has decent suspension, you probably won't notice much difference...
if you carry loads of gear on a huge roofrack, and have knackered ancient suspension, you'll notice the difference.

[Range Rover Blues]

as rrb says leave them on  if you have a lift just spacethe mounts out to match or the nuckels have a habbit of turning  i have a question though would you be abel to space them on standard hight springs to get a bit more articulation

  Yes you can, also if you have a Southdown tank guard you may have to fit spacers.

I relocated the ARB axle mounts upwards and outwards (I snapped them off) too, the one diassadvantage of what you propose is that the ARB becomes more exposed.

[bambamjj]

RRB - i have standard Disco with police rear springs and Southdown Tank Guard and still managed to fit with out modifying ARB mounts  :-k this is the second time i have heard this about them needing modifying, have i done something wrong  [-o<

http://www.mud-club.com/forum/index.php/topic,62861.0.html

photos at bottom of the above link

[clbarclay]

On a lifted disco, what prevents you from just fitting the arb with the short links going upwards from the axle? Does the arb links have to go below the axle mounts to clear items like the exhaust?