can i get a 100% straight answer please?

[boss]

i need a straight answer here

can i cut out the inner wing of my disco with out it failing the mot? been told no because its a structural part of the car, but then others say it cant be becasue its glued in. other have said its ok aslong as theres nothing mounted to it.
my discos wings are pretty bad and i cant be botherd to fab up some new ones becasue i have more important things to do to it. also if i chopp them out the big tyres can fit a bit nicer

sorry for the cave man speak but ive only just woke up. :|

[stuvy]

im sure you have tube the front internals aka drag car style, thats what we did to a mates chevy and its never had a problem


hope your cool mate havent spoke in a while! ;)

[boss]

ah thanks. i think im just going to do it and if it is "illigal" then its in modded class

you started your bobtail?

[redhand]

Inner wings are not structural and unless there is a safety reliant component attached to them then they are not MOT testable. Safety reliant components would be  ABS valves, or  pump, Brake lines etc.

[Tommo]

My mot tester still works on the 12 inch rule. if anything important is within 12 inches then its a fail. IE brake M/cyl steering column mount etc.

If they are rotten then you have nothing to lose.

[boss]

12" from the wheel?

[Tommo]

It might be 10 inches actually. when i said 'anything important' what i meant to say was any structural points.

EG if you have a big hole in your bulkhead but your master cyl mount is a certain distance away then you are ok.

[redhand]

The MOT testers manual is very clear. Corrosion can only be checked if it is on a structural item which the vehicle relies upon for it's safety so door pillars, chassis, bulkhead Sills. Inner wings if they form part of the loadbear struture of the vehicle. Or as I said earlier if there is a device fastened to the panel that the vehicle relies on for it's safety. An MOT tester has to abide by the testers manual he can not make the rules up as he goes along or change the rules to suit himself. If it's in the manual he has to abide by it..

Discovery inner wings are not a structural item and therefore are NOT testable If your tester telll you they are he is an idiot and needs to be referred to the testers manual (all testers have to have a copy in the test station) If you remove things like brake lines or abs components and remount them. Then your wings can be rotting away and there is nothing he can do about it. 

And the test diametre is a 30cm (12") ball.

[muddydisco]

Inner wings are not structural and unless there is a safety reliant component attached to them then they are not MOT testable. Safety reliant components would be  ABS valves, or  pump, Brake lines etc.

Inner wings are testable for mots because you have 12 inch from the servo mounting point and body mounts and bulkhead

[redhand]

Inner wings are not structural and unless there is a safety reliant component attached to them then they are not MOT testable. Safety reliant components would Be ABS valves, OR pump, Brake lines etc.

Inner wings are testable for mots because you have 12 inch from the servo mounting point and body mounts and bulkhead

No they are not be cause the corrosion has to be on a structural item.  the whole inner wing can be rotting away and it wouldn't fail. Because it is not a structural item. I refer you to this link. http://www.motuk.co.uk/manual/contents.htm and this excerpt from it

To assist with the assessment of corrosion sections 2, 3 and 5 of the manual identify the parts of the vehicle structure which are particularly important and to which particular attention must be paid during the inspection.
These are:
- The load bearing parts of the vehicle to which certain testable items (as specified in section 2, 3 and 5) are mounted.
- Any structure or panelling which is supportive to either the component mounting or its load bearing member within 30cm of the mounting location. eg. In the examination of a seat belt mounting on an inner sill, consideration must be given to the outer sill, door pillar, floor panel, wheel arch or any other supportive structure within 30cm of the component mounting point.

[boss]

so all i have to do is move all the gubbinz out the way i can chop them out? marvelous :twisted:
thanks for all your help chaps.

[littlepow]

Best to ask your local MOT tester, as they will know what is what. Then if you follow their advice you will have no problems with future tests.

[DEANO3528]

redhand is correct in his reading of the regs but do be aware that the brake lines clip on to the inner wing as std so would need provision made for fixing or that would be a fail.
Regarding the remark about the servo, as redhand says, it is not fixed to the inner wing but the bulkhead so only if the corrosion was on the very edge where it affixes could that possibly be a fail.
A lot of these regs are as always down to interpretation.

[boss]

thanks all for your help. i decided to do it anyway. looks worse at the moment but itll all comeout in the wash. just working on moving the batt, header and fusebox. brake lines would have to be re done soon anyway as i have something sitting in my garage that will require them to be muuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuch longer!but keeping that one under my hat at the moment :-$
guards are to be made up for all vitals; servo, rad, cooler ect. 

like i say some trimming, cleaning and painting needs to be done!