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I've watched this a few times now and from what I saw.....a..he tried to run so should be treated as hostile.b..When they got him he struggled so they correctly used more force.c.. the cop on the left was trying to keep the guys head down and still if the guy on the road wants to rub his face on the road the cop did right trying to stop him.d.. when the other two were trying to get the cuffs on the cop on the left was not punching the guy in the face he was hitting the back of the shoulder with a palmed hand to make bending his arm back easier.e..In this day and age nobody can take any chances with their own safety. they did what they had to do to take him down while staying safe themselves.f.. Maybe the soldier should should not have got sloshed and had a go in the first place , these are my views on this vid and if you watch the cop shows ie.cops with cameras , street wars , car wars etc you will see these techniques used time and again. The only reason this is news is because the guy on the ground is a soldier therefore a hero :roll:If it was a dustbin man or a plasterer it would be on one of the shows named above with him being called a Muppet by the voice over guy...
An interesting thread. I for one never ever trust what the camera shows, as the Press seem to show only the bits they want to show.A prime example was footage from on of the Poll Tax demos in London. The Press only showed the bit the where the protestor got a whack across the back of the head with a baton. Instantly it was 'fascist bully boys' etc etc. I then saw the full footage when I was on a Public Order course. The bit the Press had 'forgotten' to show was the same protestor running at the Police lines with a carving knife taped to the end of a scaffold pole. Selective editing?I routinely now face more open aggression and violence than I have ever done before from all sections of society and all age groups. You sometimes have to fight fire with fire. I recently dealt with a guy who had threatened a chap with a knife. But when we got hold of him and restrained him , and were still concerned that he had the knife, we were the bullies, the Nazis, the ones who must have got picked on at school, the ones who had nothing better to do than pick on a poor innocent member of the Public. And yes, he did have a knife.Use of force is always a controversial subject, and the way that criticism is levelled is getting to a lot of officers, who are getting to the point where they won't use force until it is too late, by which time they have been injured.It is very frustrating when it gets to court, possibly up to a year down the line, when the accused is sat there all smart and sober, the tape is played and then an incident that took seconds is then pulled apart over hours, by a group of armchair warriors whose definition of danger is ducking to avoid a misfired staple or particularly sharp paperclip.I thank all of you for the support of the Police. There are always two sides to a story.We do make mistakes, as we are only human. My motto when investigating an incident is simple. 'Believe no one and assume nothing'.'Evenin all'!
For a savage beating, he doesn't have very many injuries. Just a few minor grazes and a hurt ego.Could they not have used CS spray?
he should think him self lucky a freind of mine came out of a late night shop in a main welch town and went to tell the three cops across the road that his car had been stolen wilst in the store he didnt even get near them when they ran at him and layed in brocken jaw and 2 brocken ribbs on camera and they got of with it by saying he was approching them in a thretaning manner caxxxff cops baxxxrds
If he was in my old squadron, he would get done for getting into trouble, and then he would get beaten for not being able to get out of it like a man.And actually, his profession does matter. Behaving like he did, he brings the whole of the forces into disrepute. And I guess his colleagues might be having words with him. I would.
