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Twin shocks
« on: December 27, 2008, 20:26:51 »
As stated i'm looking to use twin shocks on my disco and was wondering what the benefits are from having them, also with using them can you get away with using a softer spring?


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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2008, 05:06:11 »
Starting with the obvious, springs and shocks do differnt things.  I've always been facinated by people who say that fitting twin shocks means you don't need anti roll bars.  Ford tried it in 1967 with the MkI Escort.  In 1968 it was launched with the Capri front axle, including a nice htick anti roll bar :roll:
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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2008, 11:57:55 »
The only reason i would like to know it that my truck has a very hard life on the front axle and wanted to know if there was any benefits to having twin shocks, as for anti roll bars i don't have them on anyway and don't have any problems without them.
« Last Edit: December 28, 2008, 11:59:28 by Fruitloop »
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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2008, 13:10:56 »
Jav

knowing your truck twin shockers will help you - dont expect any lifts as a result but expect more effecient damping, less axle bouncing around over the bumps and a slighty stiffer ride.

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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2008, 13:28:38 »
Thx Dave, at least someone can give me a straight answer :)


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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2008, 15:24:35 »
Hi have twin shocks front and back on my 200 Tdi disco.
I put on a set of Bearmach extra heavy duty rear springs and heavy duty front springs about 8 years ago.
At that time i was carrying a lot of tools in the truck and the springs did the job of lugging all the weight about.
Since then i put on a front winch and winch bumper, and dont carry half the amount i used to in the rear so i went for twin Pro Comps on the rear which have taken the harshness out of the springs, its still a bit to firm on the rear but better than it was.
I have twin OME on the front which seem to be working just as well.
I junked the front anti roll bar but kept the rear. Body roll is kept to a minimum for a truck with 5 inches of lift, but then i dont drive like i have stolen it.

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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2008, 19:09:05 »
Thx for the reply wizard, did you find that when cornering on the road it helped also how was the response off road?


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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2008, 19:55:20 »
the time when you realy do benifit from twin front shocks jav,is when coming over a crest at speed,its something im considering doing,tried a mates truck out,hardly felt like the wheels came off the ground

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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #8 on: December 29, 2008, 01:06:30 »
Starting with the obvious, springs and shocks do differnt things.  I've always been facinated by people who say that fitting twin shocks means you don't need anti roll bars.  Ford tried it in 1967 with the MkI Escort.  In 1968 it was launched with the Capri front axle, including a nice htick anti roll bar :roll:

what relevance does this have to the blokes question? was the mk 1 escort an offroader? NO!!

in answer to the question yes i have done the twin shock thing with pro comps on my last disco and loved it, handles better on road and you can be more "enthusiatic" driving offroad without so many harsh bottom outs

the twin shock mounts i fitted were paddocks and were not a straight forward fit as i had to cut the front inners to clear them and also lift the header tank a little, you will only need very minor trimming if you havea body lift though

But........i have actually changed back to single 11" ome shocks with gwynn lewis extended turrets
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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #9 on: December 29, 2008, 11:45:11 »
Thx all for your replies, i think i will go for the twin set up as my front axle does get alot me abuse than most,

My next question is has anyone got or use a rear swivel mount on there shocks and what are they like, i;e do they help?


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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #10 on: December 29, 2008, 13:27:45 »
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Thx for the reply wizard, did you find that when cornering on the road it helped also how was the response off road?


Cornering has always been fairly good, I did notice a difference once i removed the roofrack and spare wheel that was up there though. Since i put on the 2 inch body lift it has made it roll slightly more though.
Compared to my brothers Disco on standard springs mine is rock solid.

Off road it has been great, i kept snapping the front anti roll bar mountings every so often, mainly because they were limiting the axle articulation, so that ended up in the bin.

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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #11 on: December 31, 2008, 06:24:59 »
Starting with the obvious, springs and shocks do differnt things.  I've always been facinated by people who say that fitting twin shocks means you don't need anti roll bars.  Ford tried it in 1967 with the MkI Escort.  In 1968 it was launched with the Capri front axle, including a nice htick anti roll bar :roll:

what relevance does this have to the blokes question? was the mk 1 escort an offroader? NO!!



Simply that engineers have been trying for 4 decades to get shocks to do the job of an anti roll bar, and failing dismaly.

But hell, what do I know, I've only got a degree in it after all.  Just forget I said anything.
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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #12 on: December 31, 2008, 13:35:27 »
Now, now children play nice as this is supposed to be a friendly forum, all i done was ask a simple question and all i wanted was a simple answer, i have now got a couple of answers from different people and i'm happy with the choice i am going to make so thx to all that have given me there opinion on twin shocks, as for the answer i got about roll bars, well that has no relevance to my question as i don't have them on my truck and to be honest never will as they are just something else that i'd bend and break


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« Last Edit: December 31, 2008, 13:37:57 by Fruitloop »
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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #13 on: December 31, 2008, 14:55:59 »
Hi
What degree have you got Mr RRB ?
I am not being funny, just inquisitive.

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Re: Twin shocks
« Reply #14 on: January 01, 2009, 00:16:31 »
Starting with the obvious, springs and shocks do differnt things.  I've always been facinated by people who say that fitting twin shocks means you don't need anti roll bars.  Ford tried it in 1967 with the MkI Escort.  In 1968 it was launched with the Capri front axle, including a nice htick anti roll bar :roll:

what relevance does this have to the blokes question? was the mk 1 escort an offroader? NO!!

in answer to the question yes i have done the twin shock thing with pro comps on my last disco and loved it, handles better on road and you can be more "enthusiatic" driving offroad without so many harsh bottom outs

the twin shock mounts i fitted were paddocks and were not a straight forward fit as i had to cut the front inners to clear them and also lift the header tank a little, you will only need very minor trimming if you havea body lift though

But........i have actually changed back to single 11" ome shocks with gwynn lewis extended turrets
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what you doing with the twin shock mounts or have you found a home for them?
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