mot's

[henryandlesley]

hi do you think that an mot on cars are good things to have or not like most countrys dont have them but look at the stuff what is been driven arround

[hairyasswelder]

My vote is yes, I have seen your post on welding and how many people do you think would have done all that work if not forced to?

Obviously you can weld but if someone were paying for it  :shock: :shock: :shock: AND couldnt afford to scrap it, AND had to get to work....... they wouldnt be pulled for no MOT so they would continue to drive it through need

Also I bet the mot testers on here have a few stories that would make your hair curl  :roll: :roll:

Steve

[mikiep1986]

 ill say yes agreeing with hairyasswelder all the cars on the road would be in very bad condition and wouldnt be fixed ?

[burgerman]

Also I bet the mot testers on here have a few stories that would make your hair curl  :roll: :roll:

  Oh Yes indeed we do  :doh:

[Gordo]

In some European countries the inspection is every two years, and there have been suggestions that they should be unified across all EU member states - so ours would drop to every two years rather than annually.

From seeing what people drive around in (and recent news about a vehicle induced fatal accident) it strikes me that it's essential.

Over in Northern Ireland the tests are conducted at specialist test centres and not by local garages, which seems a good idea so that they're all done to a standard and there's no benefit to failing a vehicle unnecessarily because the test centres don't do repairs.

[Disco Matt]

I say yes. As I understand it they do not have them in the USA, and if you've ever seen an episode of "Pimp My Ride" you'll be horrified at some of the wreckage that people are driving around in before the team refurbish it!

The majority of people have little clue about what is going on under the skin of their car, and don't bother with maintenance beyond filling the washer bottle up unless it breaks down. I think I'd rather their cars were checked yearly!

[ne jones]

I think they may bea good thing but can lead to a false sense of security.

Before he became an MOT tester my dad was a car mechanic. I remember being in a car that had passed its MOT one morning but in the afternoon the balljoint gave out @ 40mph on the outside lane of a local dual carriageway.

The MOT test only shows that the car was roadworthy or not at the exact time it was tested.

[ausieg]

I think that the MOT test is a good idea but it should be carried out at independant testing stations,
and be more of a thorough examination with more time allowed for brakes, steering and bodywork
(especially areas hidden under carpeting/trim panels where a multitude of sins are waiting to suprise us).

Cheers Graham

[solihull-mick]

Ive said for years it should be an offence to weld anything on a vehicle unless your coded, after seeing far to many bodge jobs in my workshop so call welders have done, its frightening some of the things ive seen,  and people moan about my prices!  change the law i say dont let just anybody carry out welding repairs,

[Gordo]

Ive said for years it should be an offence to weld anything on a vehicle unless your coded, after seeing far to many bodge jobs in my workshop so call welders have done, its frightening some of the things ive seen,  and people moan about my prices!  change the law i say dont let just anybody carry out welding repairs,

That's a whole new argument - and I think it's running elsewhere on the site!

Although if someone's welding isn't up to scratch then it'll be picked up at its next MOT (or should be, if it's done properly).

[hairyasswelder]

Ive said for years it should be an offence to weld anything on a vehicle unless your coded, after seeing far to many bodge jobs in my workshop so call welders have done, its frightening some of the things ive seen,  and people moan about my prices!  change the law i say dont let just anybody carry out welding repairs,

Wasnt there talk about that a few years back??

I am a coded welder but that doesnt mean I have any formal qualifications to weld a car.  Also I have seen coded welders work on cars and it was poo.  A special code would have to be added for welding old thin steel in various positions  :-k :-k

You would need a formal record of who/where/when the welding was carried out as you could just weld it and say it was there when I bought it.

Why not just give the MOT tester a lesson in what a weld should look like and let him give it a pry/smack witth hammer if he is in any doubt?

Steve

[carbore]

Yes, keep them, Its the best 44 quid you are forced to spend. And they should send letters out reminding you.

IS it comprehensive enough, well its not bad but could be better, possibly phased as vehicle gets older/more miles it gets more detailed???? after all you dont need one till the car is 3 years old so why then do the same tests for the next 20 years, especially as corrosion is less of an issue than it used to be.....

[waveydavey]

The safety stuff yes unquestionably but I don't think the emissions should ever have been put on MOT. You need something but the MOT should be a safety check.

Its better with the central system but I agree with dedicated test centers; ones that don't do repairs, can't do repairs and are not allowed to recommend antibody for the repairs.
take away the financial incentive to fail a car and the overall standard becomes more even.
As has been said its not fair to say you have to have coded welders etc. I have seen useless coded welders and damn good uncoded; the test should be checking the results.

[discowoman]

I still think its a good idea, but what never ceases to amaze me is the amount of people that put new tyres exhausts etc on a car just before the MOT then are surprised when it fails on welding etc, then proceed to scrap the thing as they cant afford the repairs - the proceed to buy another rust bucket with a bit of MOT and repeat the cycle!
Had a  guy local to us that used to hang around the local MOT station and offer the unlucky punters £100 for their MOT fail - then used to strip them of the 'new' parts - made a killing.

[freeagent]

I think the MOT is a good idea, but there are a lot of 'jobsworth' MOT inspectors out there, and a lot who can't understand the rules and regs (had a place turn away my old 110 hardtop a few years back as they insisted it needed a class 7 MOT... :roll:

My advice is find a good, honest testing station that understands old landrovers, and who are not just trying to get work out of you... wash your car before you go, and don't go too mad replacing stuff before the test, because if you fail you are only re-tested on the bits it failed on....  ;)

[crazymac]

Definately a must, and I also think that new cars should get them sooner!!

How many cars do you see less than 3 years old with a light out??

Also ask the MOT testers, how many of these cars fail their 1st MOT?? A high percentage!!

[ian_s]

Also ask the MOT testers, how many of these cars fail their 1st MOT?? A high percentage!!

i had that on my ex's seat ibiza, luckily it was still within warrantee and got the front suspension replaced for free :D