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Blessed Thing Won't Start
« on: February 16, 2009, 21:28:54 »
Right, now I'm getting a bit annoyed!

Went out to start the Disco (V8 with LPG) this morning and it won't go  :(  The engine churns over okay but there's no sign of life ... hell of a smell of petrol but no vroom vroom!

Decided to leave it until this evening and try again ... same result (what did I expect? Like it was gonna fix itself?).

Now I'm thinking immobiliser/dizzy/coil - am I on the right track?

This is a Jap import - does it have the same immobiliser as the UK model? Would a spider fit? Is there life on Mars? Does Ziggy still play guitar?

Suggestions, in a plain brown envelope to the usual address please  :?
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #1 on: February 17, 2009, 15:14:24 »
The frequency of the transmitter is different for Jap models but it's the same imobiliser.  I'd be surprised if it cranks though if it's imobilised.

Check for a spark, in fact check for power to the coil first then check for a spark.  Take the plugs out and dry them too.
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2009, 21:00:16 »
Thanks for the info RRB. I'm so busy this week it'll have to wait for the weekend before I can get to iy again.

I read an article about the dreaded spider problem which suggests that, depending on which bit of the spider has failed, it's still possible to crank the engine but not have it fire up. I'm kinda hoping it's something simpler .. like maybe a blown fuse?
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2009, 00:55:12 »
Once you are sure all the fuses are ok try putting a live feed to the + side of the coil and try
starting.If it fires up then it will probably be the spider.I have seen a few that will crank all
day but not fire up because of this.You then can either repair the spider unit or fit a by-pass
wiring plug.It's not that bad of a job.
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2009, 16:37:22 »
Confused? Well I am!

I've tried to start this blessed car several times this week and got nowhere (fast). Took the battery out last night to give it a charge ready for some serious fault finding today. Put it back in the morning and .... VROOM!! First turn of the key it's fired up and happily burbling away as if nothing was ever wrong  :huh:

It's days like this that make you wonder why you don't drive a ToyMota  [-X [-X

Got the local garage to check the battery out - okay. Charging voltage - okay.

Here's another thing - this motor (imported Japanese variety) doesn't appear to have an alarm fitted so is it likely to have an immobiliser?
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2009, 19:32:26 »
It is the typical LAND ROVER!!!  :twisted: :twisted: :twisted:
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2009, 23:52:00 »
Is there a way of bypassing all the ignition and just having a switch to power up and a push start for a 3.9 injected v8 play thing??

not hijacking honest  :lol: :lol:

Instructions for morons would be handy  ;)
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2009, 11:23:27 »
Well, I was confused yesterday .... now I'm flamin' fuming  :evil:

Will it start this morning? Don't answer that! Stupid Japanese (made in Solihull) car  :?

It's cranking over and there's sparks at the plugs and it's getting fuel so why won't it start?

It ran beautifully all day yesterday ... loads of switching off and re-starting ... a couple of good runs to keep the battery topped up ... what can be wrong?

H E L P !!!
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2009, 20:20:15 »
As you are after a air box, is there a problem round the air flow meter? mine wouldn't start with the air pipe work removed.

Its just a guess im not good with v8's, hence i just sold it
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Re: Blessed Thing Won't Start
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2009, 23:48:06 »
Quote from: Disco-andy on February 22, 2009, 20:20:15
As you are after a air box, is there a problem round the air flow meter? mine wouldn't start with the air pipe work removed.

Its just a guess im not good with v8's, hence i just sold it

Hi Andy, I'm almost wishing I'd bought yours now  :D

Had the car looked at today and a couple of things were noted. Firstly, the fuel pump isn't providing full fuel pressure, then there's the small(?) matter of the ignition timing being out and the plugs having the wrong gap - well the 4 I didn't get around to changing yesterday anyway - and the plug leads being a bit naff. Oh yeah, and there's practically a direct open-ended airway into the AFM - the filter ain't doin' nuffink!

The car was at A&D Autogas to have a certificate issued so I go them to check it over at the same time. I'll call you tomorrow to arrange to collect that air box  :D
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