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lights?
« on: March 26, 2009, 05:23:13 »
would it be legal to have a set of spots that were on with main dip beam if they stayed within the origional beam pattern?
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Re: lights?
« Reply #1 on: March 26, 2009, 08:47:22 »
spots that............stayed within the origional beam pattern?

Is it possible to buy such a thing?
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Re: lights?
« Reply #2 on: March 26, 2009, 09:16:58 »
would it be legal to have a set of spots that were on with main dip beam if they stayed within the origional beam pattern?

No - http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1989/Uksi_19891796_en_9.htm#nsch4

Only allowed 2 dipped beam lights.
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Re: lights?
« Reply #3 on: March 26, 2009, 09:17:20 »
 Depends on what the spots were design as whether they are Spot Driving or Fog and height.
 Wiring them in this fashion with both dip and main beam would require them to be fog lights not driving or spot lights fog light beam beam are point toward the ground locally (like Dip beam is) therefore shouldn't blind people coming in the other direction you can only use them in low visibility (less than 100meters) .
 If they are spot lights as stated you can only wire them to come on with main beam (unless only used off-road) I have how ever wire a set up for a friend with a 3 way switch to allowing him to have off, on with main beam or on on there own(*use only off road) as he uses it on a private farm for shooting. Just make sure when you MOT it that it is either in off position or on with main beam you should be OK.
There is a maximum height you can fit fog lights (usually give on documentation that come with the lights)

 *use only off road means on private property (Farm,pay and play days) you can not Legally use this on a Byway or UCR (they come under the same laws as any other highway)

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Re: lights?
« Reply #4 on: March 26, 2009, 09:17:58 »
From my knowledge, the only lights that can be on in addition to dip beam is fog lights, only if in reduced visibility. Spots have to go on with high beam.

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Re: lights?
« Reply #5 on: March 26, 2009, 10:03:41 »
There is a maximum height you can fit fog lights (usually give on documentation that come with the lights)

Used to be 24" but is now 1200mm so plenty of height to play with.
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Re: lights?
« Reply #6 on: March 26, 2009, 10:47:29 »
If you do fit them, please make sure they are set up properly. It creates havoc to peoples night vision otherwise. Mind you, could be useful if the Luftwaffe get frisky again.


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Re: lights?
« Reply #7 on: March 27, 2009, 01:36:41 »
From my knowledge, the only lights that can be on in addition to dip beam is fog lights, only if in reduced visibility. Spots have to go on with high beam.

I am cheesed off with the number of posers who seem to think that front foglights are just an addition to dipped headlights whilst they drive around under perfectly adequate street lighting.
 
Surely the whole point about foglights is that they throw a low wide beam and the "bounceback" from the fog is therefore reduced ? I mean REAL fog, not when visibility falls below half a mile !

In my opinion front foglights are only really useful when the light from dipped beams is being bounced back at the driver and not penetrating the fog at all. In such a case I would use sidelights and fogs... and in such extremes even the rear foglights.

Rear foglights ?  Grrrrrr  ... They are worst thing ever put on cars simply because nobody seems to understand what they are for !     


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Re: lights?
« Reply #8 on: March 27, 2009, 12:07:13 »
Do not get me started on fog lights and peoples complete lack of competence in using them...!!!! This is the one thing that really winds me up whilst out driving... :evil: :evil: :evil:

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« Reply #9 on: March 27, 2009, 12:31:08 »
Do not get me started on fog lights and peoples complete lack of competence in using them...!!!! This is the one thing that really winds me up whilst out driving... :evil: :evil: :evil:

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Re: lights?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2009, 12:32:34 »
Just out of curiosity is there any height regulations on a second set of head lights?
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Re: lights?
« Reply #11 on: March 27, 2009, 15:35:44 »
ok thanks all. so given that the answer is no what other practical solutions are there for improving visibility without blinding other road users and without breaking the law?
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Re: lights?
« Reply #12 on: March 27, 2009, 17:28:19 »
Looking at your Avatar, you've still got the crappy square lights, so can't you change those for the later ones, fit some decent bulbs, plus a legal set of driving lights?
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« Reply #13 on: March 27, 2009, 18:00:19 »
Buy something Japanese again Lambert.

Seriously though I can sell you some Osram Nightbreaker bulbs at a very good price if you're after better bulbs. Same draw but more efficient +90% extra output.
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Re: lights?
« Reply #14 on: March 28, 2009, 12:58:57 »
ok thanks all. so given that the answer is no what other practical solutions are there for improving visibility without blinding other road users and without breaking the law?

I fitted 100w bulbs to my Disco: huge improvement!
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« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2009, 13:39:34 »
ok thanks all. so given that the answer is no what other practical solutions are there for improving visibility without blinding other road users and without breaking the law?

I fitted 100w bulbs to my Disco: huge improvement!

He did say without breaking the law though - bet your 100 watters weren't 'E' marked.
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Re: lights?
« Reply #16 on: March 28, 2009, 20:01:13 »
I don't  know, but it has been through an MOT without any problems.  Plus, I can actually see where I am going now :lol:
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