parent spots in carparks

[henryandlesley]

well why do people do it me and the wife went to tescos and was waiting to park in the parent spot as we had the baby with us and this old person came along and got into her car with out any kids or even diabled it is just lazy them spots are there for people with kids in prams and to a certain hieght it really makes me angry to see people with prams has to go so far and try and get their kids back into a car all because others can not read a sign

[Team Landzuki]

I totally agree. Also the people with car seats in the back but no kids in the car. Its very wrong.

[crazymac]

And the ones that have the kids in the car, but the kids have to stay in the car while the adult runs in, as they know the kids will plague them for sweets etc!!

[golly]

So can I park in such spacers with my mini. Golly is under 3 feet and only became part of this family at Christmas, so that makes him under one?

[muddysteve]

so what exactly is the problem for a fit and healthy parent to push a pram a few extra yards rather than an elderly infirm person?

parent and child spaces are there for people who drive 110's and need the extra wide space to swing it in  :dance:

[Terranosaurus]

so what exactly is the problem for a fit and healthy parent to push a pram a few extra yards rather than an elderly infirm person?

Prams aren't too bad IMHO but now with a toddler the parent spaces are a lot safer place as theres generally less crossing to be done.

Also winds me up the she disproprtionallity of disabled to other spaces especially parent and child ones, yes there are a lot of registered disabled but lets face it many of them are more able bodied than I am - they really should clamp down on this and then the carpark allocation would go down I'm sure.

[baz2236]

When take my mum to tesco's I park in the parent and child space as it does not say you need to have a baby or a pram its just Parent and child.

 :D :D

[scousebird]

Well I suppose if you have the mentality of a child then it counts  :twisted:

[McGuire]

 Watched a feller park in one of these spots a while ago, totally alone. When he got out, I told him he'd lost his child and offered to help look for it. He mouthed some abuse and fled into the shop, where, about fifteen minutes later, he turned a corner and came face to face with me. He turned white, spun round, and fled (I was nearly twice his size). I just stood there laughing! Thoroughly enjoyed that! :lol:
 

[TDi90]

was the picture in the space white?
or was it yellow?

believe me, it is significant  :P ;)

[karoshi]

When take my mum to tesco's I park in the parent and child space as it does not say you need to have a baby or a pram its just Parent and child.

 :D :D

i got into a steaming argument with the "Malcolm" (the genius who collects the trolleys) at the Sainsburys near my parent's house a few years back, i'd taken my mum down for a few bits and parked in the "parent & child" space.. he had a right go at me about it but although the paintmark has a pram outline the useage sign stated that the space was for the use of single parents with a child :D

[Ridgeback]

I have often seen people parking more upmarket cars ,BMW, Audi  Mercedes etc in the parent and child bays with no kids in the car and to be honest I can fully understand why.
I have had a number of new cars and they have all been dented down the doors in car parks.

I have even seen a women in tesco let her kids push a trolley into my car and dent it and she thought this was fine " its not my fault" the woman said.
Once I was at the pub (same car park as tesco) and someone hit my mates car coming out of a space, they just drove off. We got the REG number but the police said because its not a public highway, the driver did not have to give his insurance details.

from what I can see of many of the cars parking in the parent and child bay's, if the standard bays were bigger then people would stay out of the parent and child bays.

Thats just my opinion but I'm sure many will disagree !

[lcruiser100s]

if the standard bays were bigger then people would stay out of the parent and child bays.

Not that I park in Child bays, but I do overhang the spaces into the isle and have to squeeze out the door as not to hit the car next to me. Spaces are jut too small.

[landmannnn]

Haven't you guys heard of Tesco's direct, Sainsbury's to you etc?  I haven't been to a supermarket for a couple of years now, saves all that stress about where to park. :D

[TBM]

I'd like to know why people insist on dragging their spawn around a supermarket. The clutter up the aisles and get stuck in the wheels of my trolley.

If you leave them in the car it would make my shopping trip slightly less painful. Open the windows a little in the car and they shouldn't overheat.

[william127]

why do some people have an inability to park (useually in small cars) when they go to the supermarket? i took my 130 tipper to the supemarket everyother day for a couple of years and alwys found a space. my favorite trick was parking it very neatly next to a badly parked smartcar or whatever :)

[TBM]

if you do that to a baby you will soon get reported and with the psycho's who thinks it is funny to mess about with kids then no you should not leave kids in cars if people dont like it then go late at night i for one will never leave my kids in a car on their own

I've got far better things to do late at night than shopping. ;)

Pop the kids in the boot. No-one will see them then and they'll be very safe. Wouldn't advise it on a hot day though.

Perhaps they could have a few of those cages that the use for shelf stacking at the store entrance. Stick the kid in the cage, get the shopping done and then collect on the way out. Would make life so much easier for the rest of the shoppers. Make sure you collect the right one when you leave!

[muddysteve]

or they could put the parent and chaild spaces right at the back of the carpark, that way other people wouldnt park in them as the back of the carpark is always empty

[Ridgeback]

put a barrier up at all parrents spot and have a disc which allows you to go thrugh and if you are caught get a £100 on the spot fine

Are the parrents happy to pay a £100 fine when there Kid's open a door against my car or crash a shopping trolley into it?

[Panda]

[BorisSpencer]

I park in them, I am both a parent and a child, so there should be no problem.

[muddysteve]

lets be honest if the "kids" are under the control of their parents why should the be knocked over? i dont walk down the street with my dog 6' in front or behind me, he's next to me which is where the kids should be. 

[carracarra13]

I get realy cheesed with able boddied pepole with NO BLUE BADGE who park in a disabled  spaces Im disable not my choice the cards mother nature  delt me due to some cencered person with the brain of an ant but not the intelict of a tortoise pulling out in frount of me and t boning me I was on a motor cycle at the time about 20 years ago (so I feel an expert lol) and when I ask them if they have forgot there blue badge its usualy un polight to which I say would you like my disability and give them a real guilt trip as I get out on two elbow crutches they look at me like Ive two heads just because im young (43) our beloved elderly are the top offenders of the dgs attude

[muddysteve]

couldnt agree more

theres a big difference in my mind between a disabled bay and a "parent and child" bay which lets be honest started off as a supermarket gimmick

[Chris Putt]

I think that parent and child spaces are a waste of space. If you choose to have kids- deal with it and just fit in, dont expect everyone else to have to make special dispensation for you. I already have to pay tax for your kids to go to school (and yes I was a child once so I know you will have made your contribution to my education). I agree if you have to have the spaces, put the spaces at the opposite end of the carpark- away from my car hopefully preventing kids from damaging it. I think its petty the way that people seem to think that because they have kids others should make way for them, It was self inflicted so just deal with it- if you dont want the hassle then dont have kids.

On another note- the more kids people in the world have the deeper into the environmental crisis we fall- don't bother, save the planet, save your money and buy yourself something nice with the cash you save (i seem to remember £100K between the ages of 0-16 being quoted somewhere) I can think of a load of stuff that I would buy with 100k.

Oh yeah and if kids do happen to be whinging and screaming in shops then fully expect other members of society (me included) to either tell you to control your kids......or tell them directly to shut up.


And yes I do park in parent and child spaces

Rant over.

[discomummy]

Hi,

i do not usually get involved in 'discussions' like this but i have to say that Chris Putt's comments are typical of the 'i dont have kids so why should i care about yours' type of people.

my children will provide your care in your old age, they will work to support you, they will work for your services - so what if you dont have kids - you will still have the benefit of mine, and as you have pointed out - you wont have to pay the £100 k it takes to bring them up PROPERLY

i suggest you save your £100k and use it to pay for yourself when you need care - this i think would be fair.

and of course - YOU never screamed in a shop when you were a child,  did you????


regards

ela

[Chris Putt]

Yes, I dont have kids. I have no intention of every having any for the reasons mentioned above.

Aside from in my professional capacity where I occasionally have the misfortune to have to work with kids (and therefore have a duty of care as a professional) , I really don't care about them, they get in the way and irritate me and parents seem to have some kind of opinion that they are more deserving of special treatment- which I do not understand- its your choice to have kids and make your life more difficult- so don't inflict this on others? At the end of the day- you have chosen to create them so itss your responsibility to look after them- not mine.

It annoys me that when kids misbehave that many parents do not deal with them properly and then get arsey with me when I tell them, and their kid where to go. - A typical example of this was when some kids on the road seemed to think it was ok to play football on the street, broke a headlight on my car and dented my brothers- I told the mother to maybe take some responsibility and learn how to look after her kids, and invoiced her in due course for the work. She then decided to take issue and tell me to not tell her how to bring up her kids?!- Somebody clearly has to in this case as she was inadequate.

As regards using £100k to look after myself in old age or getting a pension etc. I intend to squeeze every penny out of the state when the time comes- I pay enough tax and NI and for some reason (although I have been paying since I started work at 16- and im now 22) was not eligable for any benefit when I couldnt work due to a broken spine.- which I feel is unfair when there are others contributing nothing to society who sponge. Ill work hard and earn my right to do the same.

[crazymac]

Forgive me for jumping in here Chris, but 22??[Edited] gives you the idea that you can pontificate about other peoples kids and how they bring them up??

You're barely a kid your self! Who knows, in time you may even mature enough to bring a kid into this world and then you can spout about other peoples kids.

100K to bring a kid up is [bollards], many people will hardly EARN that in the time scale!!  Taking everything into account mine will cost me no more that 25K by the time she's 16 AND she has a good life!

Yes its been my choice to have a kid, I waited till I was 32 mind!! give it another 10 years and come back to me!! At 22 I had no intention of having kids.

SOME parents have the attitudes you describe, but that is a VERY SMALL percentage of parents, the vast majority ar responsible for their kids and bring them up the right way, otherwise it would be anarchy in the country!

If a 22 year old tried to tell me how to bring up my kid I know what i'd say!! So get off your high horse!!

The reason for the wider parent and child spaces is to allow parents access to the rear seats with doors open so they can make sure the kids are safely strapped in, its not about special dispensation, its about the practicalities of children getting in and out of cars. in tight spaces kids often cannot hold the door properly and so other cars get damaged. With the larger spaces we can avoid that. 

[Chris Putt]

Yes- I do occasionally have the misfortune of working with kids- but if the money is good enough (call me a mercenary) I will grin and bear it. Its a simple economic judgement. Its not hypocritical, I just work where the money is.

And Yes. If someones kids are acting up I will tell them to wind their necks in (Generally go to their parents if I know who they are bearing in mind its their responsibility) same as if I came across a teenager, or an adult acting a fool- as far as im concerned its all the same and I don't put up with it.

And yes, at the age of 22 I do have the right to comment on parenting skills. On the occasion I have the misfortune of having to work with kids (fortunately becoming more rare as there is more money and less hassle in me doing corporate outdoor events) I have dealt with  a massive variety of kids, and their parents and have seen a massive variety in parenting skills and child behaviour.

Are you honestly going to tell me if you saw a group of kids running riot and causing damage you wouldn't try and resolve the situation? - I beg to differ if thats the case.

Commenting that Im 'barely a kid' [Edited] I have been working since I was 16 and to be fair probably have alot more life experience than the vast majority of people my age. Not going to comment on yourselves, but im sure your older and wiser than I am, and clearly have kids so you will probably find my comments offensive anyway.

And yes Muddy Henry, anyone who treats kids badly should not be allowed to have them.

My issue with the spaces is exactly that. You say its the practicality- if they didn't have kids there would be no issue- hence it is self inflicted, so why should they get special privileges?-

If I chose to have a dog- would I get a special space to take my dog out- might be a feisty animal and push a door open?

How about If I intend on taking my boat or my bike out- do I get a special wide bay for loading and unloading- thats inconvenient sometimes and it would be practical?

Don't take them shopping? Parking problem solved and it means others don't have to put up with them.

And no, there is no way I would ever have kids, ecologically there is no worse thing for the planet and I would never inflict that on others, I don't enjoy listening to their kids whinging and I wouldn't expect anyone to have to put up with mine Economically- I have better things to spend my hard earned on and as regards did I ever scream when I was a kid, yes most probably, but I didn't have the choice of whether to be concieved by my parents or not- It was pretty well out of my hands I think you will agree.

[Discopoo]

I am 46, have been working since I was 16 but would still not have the audacity to tell some one how to deal with their children in public. If some one did it to me I would tell them where to go, you have no idea about the circumstances of individuals.
If you saw me and my child (who is 8) in a supermarket and he was misbehaving, in your eyes you have the right at 22 to tell me off. Would you do the same if you knew he had behavioral problems, or do you still think it's "easy" to control children in all situations.
I have worked with children in the past, with all ranges of disability's and social backgrounds and it sounds to me as if you need a hug as you are behaving like a petulant child with the comments you make.

One final comment, you can flame me if you want, I do not usually get drawn into these arguments but you have amused me with your ignorance of the reality's of life