Big brother watching you??????

[golly]

They're out to get you !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/7994449.stm

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Its cheaper than having uniformed officers out on the streets, but does a camera have discretion, logic and common sense built in as well?

I think not :(

[golly]

Our ISU van has just had a 360 deg camera fitted on the roof. The motorist thinks we are out to get them but that's not the intended use. Yesterday we were called a W***er by a passing motorist. I think this is going to happen more and more as time goes on.

[Rich_P]

Its cheaper than having uniformed officers out on the streets, but does a camera have discretion, logic and common sense built in as well?

I think not :(

I was just thinking when I read the article that the "job" being given to the camera should be done by real people shouldn't it?  I mean, weren't patrols to catch people doing what these cameras are "supposed" to be doing now? 

[muddyjames]

so they can zoom in on people using thier phones or have thier hands in thier hair. Thats what the police woman said. So now you will be taken to court for scratching an itch or picking your nose or adjusting the radio volume. Oooh yey, can't wait.  :twisted:

What is this country coming too.  :roll:

[Lord Shagg-Pyle]

Its cheaper than having uniformed officers out on the streets, but does a camera have discretion, logic and common sense built in as well?

I think not :(

I was just thinking when I read the article that the "job" being given to the camera should be done by real people shouldn't it?  I mean, weren't patrols to catch people doing what these cameras are "supposed" to be doing now? 

Thats my point exactly. It used to be the case when law enforcement was carried out by one organisation, The Police.
Now, you have all sorts of organisations getting in on the action, which will ultimately cause confusion and mistrust.
As one of those that is supposed to uphold the Law, I become more and more disillusioned as each day passes.
Not happy at all :(

[lambert]

"i'm sorry your honour i did not mean to mount the kerb and kill all those people but i was distracted by this smart car sat in the middle of the road filming me."

"case dismissed!"

one can but hope that a test case goes infront of a member of the judiciary with a bit of sense.

[Saffy]

All adds to the information database on individuals.

A mock up spoof of what a government agency may have access to at their work terminals (plus an explanation of actual data collection situation) >>> http://www.statebook.co.uk/index.html

Key data collection centres for your location are the National ANPR Data Centre, which captures number plate data via a network of cameras.

Automatic Number Plate Recognition systems have been in use for a number of years. Additionally the National Police Improvement Agency manages a Back Office Facility (BOF II) that allows all UK police forces, as well as HMIC, SCDCA, the MOD, SPSA, HMRC, and the SOCA to retrieve and analyse this data.

The system will read and capture 50 million plates covering 10 million drivers every day, with data recorded for up to 5 years. Capacity was enough to store 18 billion plate readings in 2009 and the system is now starting to provide the police with the ability to track vehicles in real time.

The Integrated Transport Smartcard Organisation (ITSO) smart cards, and the ITSO interoperability framework, come from the Department for Transport's vision for a single smart card to be used for road pricing, parking, transport tickets, concessionary pricing and so on.

It is used by a number of operators although, to date, does not include London's Oyster travelcard system, which has its own data systems, recording the movements of millions of people in the capital every day and retaining the data for eight weeks.

Other notable databases recording information in this area include: DVLA, PNR, UK Border Agency, and Schengen (EU)

[Rich_P]

The real criminals will always find a way around it all. 

[Saffy]

The real criminals will always find a way around it all. 

Yes, that's because they travel via a network of secret tunnels called the Criminal Underground  :dance:

[marjan]

so they can zoom in on people using thier phones or have thier hands in thier hair. Thats what the police woman said. So now you will be taken to court for scratching an itch or picking your nose or adjusting the radio volume. Oooh yey, can't wait.  :twisted:

What is this country coming too.  :roll:

Yeh but will they stop people smoking in their cars, I don't think so and in my opinion this is much more dangerous than eating something.

[golly]

A very interesting selection of points of view. Overall you have given it the thumbs down where on the mini forum it gets the thumbs up. I wonder why that is!!

[Disco Matt]

so they can zoom in on people using thier phones or have thier hands in thier hair. Thats what the police woman said. So now you will be taken to court for scratching an itch or picking your nose or adjusting the radio volume. Oooh yey, can't wait.  :twisted:

What is this country coming too.  :roll:

Yeh but will they stop people smoking in their cars, I don't think so and in my opinion this is much more dangerous than eating something.

I'd be inclined to agree. If you're eating a Mars bar and drop it on your leg, worst that can happen is you get chocolate on your trousers. If you drop a lit cigarette, then it's anyone's guess what effect your involuntary twitches of pain and attempts to retrieve it will have!

[Steve ray]

You can just see the insurance response now, "The accident was caused by my view of the junction being obscured by a Smart(?) car with a camera attached being parked right on the junction.

Another ruddy "easy touch" conviction targetting motorists.