pajero or shogun???

[beast5680]

followed two of the japanese brethren today one had shogun on it and the other had pajero, pardon my ignorance but are they the same thing as they both looked identical?

[robbie]

They are very similar but one is for the UK market (Shogun) and the other is an import, probably from Japan (Pajero)

Insurance companies are a bit fussy about imports sometimes s be warned and check around for insurance.

The main difference seem to be the interior and the imports have more chrome than black for things like bumpers, mirrors etc and this distinguishes them easily.

Mechanically they are identical. Some models (I think the 2.8diesel for example) were not sold in the UK.

goto http://www.pocuk.co.uk for more info/questions. It is the Pajero Owners Club UK (POCUK). Some of the guys come here too, but not all. They even run their own insurance which does cover imports.

You thinking of getting one??

[alaric]

Hi Mate,

Yes Pajero and Shogun are basically the same car, just rebadged for different markets - it's also sold in several countries, including the US, as the "Montero".

In the UK, the Pajeros you see have been imported from Japan. Due to stringent Japanese regulations for old cars, you can pick up Pajeros for a much lower price in Japan than a similar age model Shogun in the UK.

They tend to be a very good buy, because the Japanese treat them very well, don't commute in them and load them with all the extras when they buy them from new.

I bought my Pajero 18 months ago. It was 9 years old, but only had 49,000 miles on the clock! It's got separate front and rear climate control, limited slip rear diff, 7 seats, heated front & rear screen, electrically adjustable & folding mirrors, twin batteries, adjustable suspension damping...

A similar age Shogun would have cost 3-4000 pounds more, and been of a much lower spec. The only desirable extra that you're more likely to see on a Shogun, but not a Pajero, is a rear diff lock.

The old myths about parts being difficult to get hold of is no longer true - I've had no problems, and dealer support is improving all the time.

I have had warranty recall work done on my car since I got it - despite it being 10 years old and not bought in the UK.

And the 2.8 TD was available on the Shogun - although some models of 2.8 Pajero are tuned to produce more power.

Now you know...

Alaric.

[beast5680]

i knew someone would know it was bugging me when i was following them as i couldnt see what the difference was
no robbie i,m not thinking of getting one i,m into the green oval too much at the mo :lol: what would i do with a car i didnt have to be under every weekend :lol:

[robbie]

Glad that helped you then :)

what would i do with a car i didnt have to be under every weekend Laughing

maybe drive it off road.......  

[alaric]

I spend a bit of time under my car laughing...at the large sticks stuck into various gaps, dents in the protector plates...Oh, wait a minute that's not quite what you were thinking of is it...

Alaric.

[Tiny Tim]

We get all the toys that seem strictly rationed to UK Shogun buyers  :P

I just been under mine laughing at the whopping great dent in the armour (standard) surrounding my diesel tank   :shock:  8)  :lol:

[robbie]

yeeh I cant quite understand that, they put the plates on the Jap models, yet they dont go off road often.... In the UK they dont, mind boggling!!

[alaric]

Snap Tim, I've also got one of those!

Alaric.

[Jan]

Wudnt be without mine ~~ Jan Xx

[nzrover]

Wudnt be without mine ~~ Jan Xx

There's things we all wouldn't be without - for me it seems to involve a Pajero too!  :)

[Simon_Doc]

yeeh I cant quite understand that, they put the plates on the Jap models, yet they dont go off road often.... In the UK they dont, mind boggling!!

That's how it goes. I suppose it just goes to show that in the UK we pay more for the vehicle and get a lesser specification.

For me: Pajero vs Shogun? Pajero every time.
A bit more work on the insurance side, however you can get for the same price as the Shoggy AND you get all the extra toys that the UK's "poor cousin" has missing.
Regards,
Simon

[joker777]

yeeh I cant quite understand that, they put the plates on the Jap models, yet they dont go off road often.... In the UK they dont, mind boggling!!

That's how it goes. I suppose it just goes to show that in the UK we pay more for the vehicle and get a lesser specification.

For me: Pajero vs Shogun? Pajero every time.
A bit more work on the insurance side, however you can get for the same price as the Shoggy AND you get all the extra toys that the UK's "poor cousin" has missing.
Regards,
Simon

totaly agree

[Bulli]

Had a Pajero and was reasonable low mileage but coughed its guts and killed the cam,rockers and head. Now have Shogun 2.8 with all bash guards and rear difflock. Dont use it hard anymore off road but it has been used. Oh mines now done 30k for me with no toruble and still has a full mitsi service history. So in my book Shogun wins..unless you can guarantee the mileage/service history/ leaglity of the pajero. No one has mentioned the reason it isnt called a pajero in europe,its nothing to do with spec but the fact its a rude word in Spanish.

[PikeyPaj]

My one is a Pajero but as the name suggests is Pikey - I think it is worse spec than the Shogun - oh well im not complaining, less to go wrong!

[Bluebottle]

No one has mentioned the reason it isnt called a pajero in europe,its nothing to do with spec but the fact its a rude word in Spanish.

Hate to spoil a popular misconception but it's not. Pajero means Farmworker, more specifically one who uses a scythe. Pajiero is the rude word, it means someone who makes a similar hand movement. Close enough though for Spanish markets, that is why they're called Monteros there. The reason they're called Shoguns in the UK is solely down to the TV series Shogun.

[Thrasher]

A Mistubishi Shogun is also a Server - anywhere but the UK.Odd huh? Imagine my surprise when I went to Dublin to replace the HDD in one ;-)