AuthorTopic: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders  (Read 12076 times)

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Offline carbore

  • Posts: 1082
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« on: February 21, 2010, 21:16:07 »
Well, no, not really, You see with people taking the mick out of Freelanders you'd of though this section would be stuffed with people asking for help and advice on how to fix them...or make them better.....

...but no. It seems we are all quietly driving around, enjoying our cars and not getting stuck or broken down etc .....    :-)

Where as my proper land rover......that hasn't turned a wheel in 2 years! (mind you its 40 years old ish!)

Double mind you, my Tractors doing fine, and thats 60 years old! Moved a ton of rocks with that last weekend.
CORNISH SPRINT AND HILLCLIMB CHAMPION 2009

Lotus Elise (Tuned/lightened for sprint racing Championship winner 2009)
Freelander 1 TD4 Auto AKA the Big Black Bus (Brownchurch Roof Rack, Hatch Bag rear liner)
Ferguson T20 "Grey Fergie" TVO Tractor 1951

Offline Saffy

  • Posts: 3127
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +1/-0
    • The Bell Inn, Imber.
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #1 on: February 22, 2010, 08:15:50 »
or is it more likely that the vast majority of freelander owners are not LR enthusiasts with only a tiny minority who would carry out work themselves, modify or have any interest in their vehicle? Those that do not fit that bill and are net aware could be scattered to the four winds of the different 4x4 forums.
I would like to see detailed posts of major home DIY rebuilds of freelanders seeing there are so many crashed repairable write-off examples for sale. Is it even possible.
« Last Edit: February 22, 2010, 08:20:27 by Saffy »
.swonk eno oN .esoht dna eseht ,siht dna taht ,wollof ot selur emos teg eW

Offline andyhubbard

  • Posts: 788
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2010, 08:18:56 »
Reliability in the old and the new :lol:,but questionable about the middle aged :roll:. Hang on what am i saying i'm 45 :lol: :lol:.

Offline mill2020

  • Posts: 219
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Team 60 - Mac 4x4 2011,2012 & 2013
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #3 on: February 22, 2010, 21:41:28 »
Never had a problem with mine, offroaded the hell out of it, including a offroad trip to morocco last year.

God bless softroader's!!!

Offline V8MoneyPit

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 5077
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2010, 10:26:54 »
Ours is in the garage as we speak......







But only because a 17 year old ran into it in his Escort  :roll:
Rgds
Steve

"Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real."

Land Rover build:
www.daisythediesel.com

Photos (my other passion and weakness):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/v8moneypit/

Offline Saffy

  • Posts: 3127
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +1/-0
    • The Bell Inn, Imber.
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #5 on: February 23, 2010, 10:49:02 »
I been looking at insurance write off freelanders at auction but nothing here convinces me I could repair at home in the same way I could do a proper landrover (ones with round headlamps). I am not even sure I could swap out a dead engine with a different model one from the freebie range because nothing is written about such things, just the usually 'what extras can I bolt on" pap and the "I can go anywhere as long as there no ruts above x inch" "look at my pretty photos of my freebie doing so well".  :evil:
.swonk eno oN .esoht dna eseht ,siht dna taht ,wollof ot selur emos teg eW

Offline V8MoneyPit

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 5077
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #6 on: February 23, 2010, 11:52:05 »
This, of course, applies to all 'modern' cars. Will we ever see the DIY rebuild of an S class Mercedes? I suspect not. The complexity built in to cars to meet type approval makes it increasingly difficult to maintain a vehicle without special equipment. I deal with basic maintenance on our Freelander and have fitted a lift kit to help it's off road ability (it does get used 'properly' BTW). I have, however, little interest in rebuilding one.

Is there yet any point in rebuilding a write off Freelander when perfectly good ones are readily available at little money. This applied to 'proper Land Rovers', as you call them, years ago when they were plentiful and cheaply available. Now good ones are getting thin on the ground, it becomes more viable to rebuild knackered ones.

Whether this will ever happen with todays cars remains to be seen, but I doubt it will happen on the same scale simply because of the complexity of the vehicles in question.
Rgds
Steve

"Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real."

Land Rover build:
www.daisythediesel.com

Photos (my other passion and weakness):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/v8moneypit/

Offline morson4x4

  • Posts: 392
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Salisbury
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #7 on: February 23, 2010, 12:34:15 »
softlanders sorry i mean freelanders have improved greatly from there early models like the 1.6 or 1.8 i think it is had its known problems of head gasket failure but the newer freelander 2 has been given really good reviews
One Life, Live It

Offline V8MoneyPit

  • Moderator
  • ***
  • Posts: 5077
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +1/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #8 on: February 23, 2010, 12:35:20 »
Not sure there ever was a 1.6 was there?
Rgds
Steve

"Reality is wrong. Dreams are for real."

Land Rover build:
www.daisythediesel.com

Photos (my other passion and weakness):
http://www.flickr.com/photos/v8moneypit/

littlepow

  • Guest
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #9 on: February 23, 2010, 14:18:06 »
Can't see why you couldn't rebuild a freelander, in one of the comics a Disco 3 has been rebuilt from a front end smash.

Offline Smego

  • Posts: 268
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #10 on: February 23, 2010, 20:37:52 »
Well, no, not really, You see with people taking the mick out of Freelanders you'd of though this section would be stuffed with people asking for help and advice on how to fix them...or make them better.....

...but no. It seems we are all quietly driving around, enjoying our cars and not getting stuck or broken down etc .....    :-)

Where as my proper land rover......that hasn't turned a wheel in 2 years! (mind you its 40 years old ish!)

Double mind you, my Tractors doing fine, and that's 60 years old! Moved a ton of rocks with that last weekend.




Probably because this is a forum for off-road peoples most freelander owners wouldn't even think of logging in here.... :lol: :lol: :lol:
Nissan Patrol GR LWB and a 3rd Gen Surf for fun...

Offline jay2578

  • Regional Rep
  • *
  • Posts: 472
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
  • Tayside 4x4 Response
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #11 on: February 25, 2010, 16:48:41 »
I`m not keen on freelanders, i dont like the look of em, although i have seen the odd one with kits on that look pretty tidy, but what i will say is, i dont doubt their off-road capabilites one bit, after all its still a land rover. they (to me) look a little too car like or my taste, although the F2 is a bit more chunky and capable looking.
 As i say, they are not really to my taste, but thats a personal thing and given the choice between a car or a freelander, well, cut me in half and youll find a green oval running through me like blackpool runs through a stick of rock! :grin: :grin:
Chairman & Trustee
Tayside 4x4 Response
Scottish Charity No. SC042452
info@tayside4x4response.co.uk

`96 Grand Cherokee Limited 4.0 (ZJ)
225/70/r16 Marix Puma muds
Roof lights and rack

"It`s a JEEP not a Land Rover!"

Offline Gordo

  • Posts: 357
  • Attack: 100
    Defense: 100
    Attack Member
  • Karma: +0/-0
    • Cambridgeshire
  • Referrals: 0
Re: Unreliable, Fragile Freelanders
« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2011, 11:49:47 »
Freelanders are very capable but, as I'm discovering with mine, there are limitations brought on by the way they're built.

The steering and suspension is very car-like and less able to cope with the abuse it gets off road - I've done a CV joint and a couple of shafts (and my mechanic hates working on it when it's covered in mud  :embarrassed:).

It's a case of the right tool for the job, and if you're on muddy lanes, farm tracks, towing stuff in and out of fields, ice and snow, they're fine - if you want to do some heavy-duty mud-plugging then you need a heavy-duty 4x4.

Keep out of the deep ruts and you'll be fine: mud, climbs, rock-crawling, wading, axle-twists are all good.

I've given mine a 2" lift, and whilst it has improved the ground clearance, it probably hasn't helped the consumption of drive-train components...
Some say that this is just a random collection of letters, and that it can only be
understood by Top Gear's tame racing driver. All we know is, it's called The Sig.

Land Rover Freelander SE Td4 | Defender 110 XS Double-Cab


 






SimplePortal 2.3.5 © 2008-2012, SimplePortal