Dave, its john from Glanaman russ's mate from brecon, i see on the landrover forum that you have cranked your own defender trailing arms in the past,please could we get together as i would like to crank my spare set of arms and put them on my 90 as she has a 2 inch lift my number is 07590919148 i go to swansea often russ says you live near birchgrove or glais, if its ok ill bring down my 90 or your more than welcome to come up to my workshop in glanaman for a coffee, i just need to know the best way to bend these and the correct poisition many thanks john. JONATHANANDREWS@SKY .COM