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Oil use
« on: July 13, 2010, 20:36:23 »
I have a 1988 110 which was once a 2.5 petrol, but is now a 200tdi.

It has the 1.6 transfer box (soon to be rectified!)

My question is this, doing a steady 65mph down the motorway with the current transfer box, is the engine goosed if it used nearly a gallon of oil???

Its fine round town, does perfectly, its only when its on a run.


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Re: Oil use
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2010, 20:58:13 »
Fuel starvation.   The 200tdi engines will scavenge everywhere to get more oil to burn if it isn't getting enough diesel.  Check your fuel filter and lift pump.


At that speed on the motorway it is going to need loads of fuel and if there is any blockage in the filter or the pump isn't performing fully it will suck it pastthe valves and pistons.

At least thats what my engine builder tells me.
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2010, 20:59:59 »
LOL i dont think it was fuel starvation,

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Re: Oil use
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2010, 21:11:15 »

Flippin' heck Dan, it must have been your 110 that caused that oil slick not BP.  ;)
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2010, 21:20:14 »
Is it blowin out of the breather or you doin smoke signals???
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2010, 21:36:40 »
Is it blowin out of the breather or you doin smoke signals???

Neither, there is very very minimal oil around the engine, and it doesnt smoke much at all, no more than any other landy i have had!


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Re: Oil use
« Reply #6 on: July 14, 2010, 20:23:54 »
Is it blowin out of the breather or you doin smoke signals???

Neither, there is very very minimal oil around the engine, and it doesn't smoke much at all, no more than any other landy i have had!

Which is why I say fuel starvation.  Just because you used lots of fuel doesn't mean it was the right amount of fuel at the right engine revs.  If it is running lean because of a blockage in the fuel delivery system the engine will draw oil in from the sump and burn its own lubricant.  if you find another cause, good for you, but I am betting you won't.  Seen this several times before on 200 tdis.
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #7 on: July 14, 2010, 21:59:22 »
Whip an injector out,if its coked up black it could be the engine oil or your engine could just be shagged??
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2010, 22:13:31 »
Before my I rebuilt my 200tdi motor over last christmas I was using about 2 litres of oil every 100 miles with no smoke, I fitted new pistons and rings etc and redone the topend with new valves and stem seals, with the injection pump still set as before the rebuild I now use no oil at all, so this fuel starvation idea seems a bit odd to me I can't see how it can scavenge oil if the valves and rings are ok, fuel starvation normally causes very poor performance,  a bit like turning your pump diaphram back too far I'd have a compression and leakdown test done, how many miles has the motor done?
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Re: Oil use
« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2010, 00:12:44 »
Before my I rebuilt my 200tdi motor over last christmas I was using about 2 litres of oil every 100 miles with no smoke, I fitted new pistons and rings etc and redone the topend with new valves and stem seals, with the injection pump still set as before the rebuild I now use no oil at all, so this fuel starvation idea seems a bit odd to me I can't see how it can scavenge oil if the valves and rings are ok, fuel starvation normally causes very poor performance,  a bit like turning your pump diaphram back too far I'd have a compression and leakdown test done, how many miles has the motor done?

Its done about 90,000 miles.

If it helps it was seriously high revving on the motorway, but not that i could tell how much cos no rev counter in the 110!!!!  But it wasnt heating up, it was going in the black bit of the temp guage just before the red, and before anyone says thats high, its still running the 2.5 petrol temp sender etc......... i havent gotten round to the conversion yet lol


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Re: Oil use
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2010, 13:30:58 »
i have just had the same probs on my 2.5td . i went on holiday and the mother inlaw was following me .when we got there she said the fumes were terrable but no smoke so i looked at the oil and it had used 2 liters in 150 miles . after investigating i found the turbo had loads of play so i got one from fleebay  and now theres no probs at all exept it has more pull . its worth looking it may be the turbo seals on the way out.

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Re: Oil use
« Reply #11 on: August 30, 2010, 00:28:24 »
Rich

1985 90 300TDI "Defender" SOLD.
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1991 RRC 3.9 Vogue SE "The spare parts box!" Broken for spares
1993 RRC Off-roader. No engine. Yet!
1991 RRC 3.9 Vogue SE "Tempory off-roader" Failed MOT - More spare parts
1992 RRC 3.9 Vogue SE "New tempory off-roader" SOLD

 






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