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Yes i think there should be a New Law.

Banning all these stupid little Ka, Micra, Corsa, from our roads if the Temperature is 0 degrees or under.
What are they thinking ? Anyway.

Spent many lost time today, stuck behind numpties, who cant get up a hill !

We pay far more in car TAX to have a 4wd, i think 4wd / awd owners should march onto number 10 !!!!

 
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #1 on: November 30, 2010, 11:26:37 »
Hello Brian.... hope you are well.

You don't post very often on here, but when you do, you come up with some crackers  :lol: You're not a little bit angry this morning are you??  :lol: Deep breath, relax.........

But I know what you mean. If you read the thread about dxmedia and his nuts (ahem!) one of the forums I think he refers to is a Fiat one (I found it too). Looking at some of the posts one there, I bet these are the first cars in the ditches during bad weather.
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #2 on: November 30, 2010, 12:25:04 »
Hi Steve, not doing to badly mate.

I was off to Fakenham Yesterday, and was annoyed with the little cars that were getting in my way.
It wasnt because the roads were icy, it was the fact they were snowy, but had thawed out.
The Little base model cars dont have any form of in Dash Temp, to let the owner know its not icy outside.

So they think it is, so better go very slow.

Some people have work to do ! and places to go.  Cheap 2wd Drive car owners - Please stay at home ! dont venture out, becuse im sick and tired of pulling you all out of trouble !! :lol:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #3 on: November 30, 2010, 12:46:38 »
Why?

I was up in the north york moors in the polo on sunday in the snow and it was great fun :D


Ban people who drive at 5 mph in the snow and slow down for hills !!!
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #4 on: November 30, 2010, 13:37:11 »
Why?

I was up in the north york moors in the polo on sunday in the snow and it was great fun UNTILL IT GOT STUCK THEN A MATE IN A 4x4 HAD TO PULL ME OUT :D


Ban people who drive at 5 mph in the snow and slow down for hills !!!

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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #5 on: November 30, 2010, 13:58:13 »
Fraid not  :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Front wheel drive is ace in snow, to be honest, if I didn't care about it, I'd take the omega out - that's RWD and a complete blast on the back roads around here in this weather  :twisted: :twisted:

Still, just waiting for an overnight order of bits to arrive for the Jeep so that's back on the road - took the mog out earlier but it's a tad chilly in that cab  ;)
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #6 on: November 30, 2010, 14:53:24 »
I've still got the 190E...... can't quite bring myself to sell it! But also can't quite bring myself to drive it at the moment. I'd scare myself silly (not the word I was going to use)! Old fashioned over zealous ABS and 4" of ground clearance don't do well with compressed snow and mounds down the middle!
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #7 on: November 30, 2010, 16:57:09 »
I've still got the 190E...... can't quite bring myself to sell it! But also can't quite bring myself to drive it at the moment. I'd scare myself silly (not the word I was going to use)! Old fashioned over zealous ABS and 4" of ground clearance don't do well with compressed snow and mounds down the middle!

Heh I took my 190e out in the snow last winter, that was ace till I took a sheet ice hill going up, then promptly came back down backwards / sideways / forwards.... Stayed on the driveway for the rest of the snow after that.
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #8 on: November 30, 2010, 17:24:17 »
I agree. I got stuck behind a little lady in a vw fox today up a snowy, well, not a hill, a slight incline really! She was going so slow she didnt make it to the top and then progressed to try and drive up the verge, reverse down (which she didnt like and couldnt do) and every time she tried to go forwards she booted it in 1st and as soon as the front of the car slipped sideways it was foot on the brake!

Now my recycle lorry is very poor in snow being an auto, rear wheel drive and no weight in the back but I managed to pull away up the hill from a stand still and catch her up for the 2nd time!
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #9 on: November 30, 2010, 17:38:10 »
my works van is fwd does this mean i'm barred from the roads for the duration  [-o< [-o< [-o< [-o< :dance: :dance: :dance:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #10 on: November 30, 2010, 17:51:41 »
My work collegues Transit is an old rear wheel drive.... this meant he nearly couldn't get out of his home town the other morning. Any slight incline and it lost traction  :lol: After finally making it into work he added a load of junk in the back for the trip home!
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #11 on: November 30, 2010, 18:44:05 »
My work collegues Transit is an old rear wheel drive.... this meant he nearly couldn't get out of his home town the other morning. Any slight incline and it lost traction  :lol: After finally making it into work he added a load of junk in the back for the trip home!

I had to go about in the Jan snow this year in a new style rear wheel drive transit lwb jobby and it wasnt great but only got stuck once and embarassingly it was in my cul de sac trying to turn around! :lol:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #12 on: November 30, 2010, 19:34:09 »
Make it a law that every vehicle HAS to have winter tyres fitted, problem solved
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #13 on: November 30, 2010, 19:48:19 »
My Delica died early this year and as strange as it sounds it was replaced by a Suzuki Ignis Sport.
Now the snow came down on Friday and it got stuck, so instead of being a bane on Disco Matt, we took for the localo tyre depot, and came away with some maxsport gravel tyres for the front. Now I know its not the same as a 4x4 bit the difference some nobbly tyres make is amazing.
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #14 on: November 30, 2010, 23:16:51 »
It isn't the car, it's the driver...

I once managed to nurse a Saab turbo (FWD, loads of torque and will spin front wheels on dry tarmac given a chance) home in snow which hit so suddenly that I don't think they even managed to scramble any gritters. I was doing 40mph tops on the open road as thanks to nanny ABS with no off switch I had no brakes whatsoever (tried them on a flat empty straight bit early on, didn't work at all) but made it home eventually despite a couple of pretty stiff hills. Traction control can thankfully be switched off, otherwise it'd be completely undriveable on slippery stuff.

Last Friday I saw blithering idiots dawdling around at 5mph, stopping all over the place, and causing a 3/4 mile long tailback on a major road just because of a bit of slush. I'd have found them even more annoying in a 2WD car as I know from experience that you need to have a good run at hills and people dithering about just become a semi-mobile obstacle. In the Disco I sat behind them in low box until bored, then as there was absolutely nothing coming the other way resorted to driving around them at the scary speed of 15 whole miles per hour!  :lol:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #15 on: December 01, 2010, 00:40:48 »
I used to have a 1998 Mondeo 2 lt Diesel its  13 miles from home to work never got stuck in the snow as i drove to the conditions  & had winter tyres on, as Disco matt says it's the Driver I've  seen a person at a horse show get stuck in a defender trying to get Horse box out of a warter logged field  my mate got the Defender out and showed them how to use the extra gearsticks There comment was wondered what they were for?????

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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #16 on: December 01, 2010, 09:08:58 »
Scrub what I put above !!!

You'd have to be mental to take a 2wd car out in what we've got this morning. There's 6" of fresh snow laying on the road and it's snowing hard. All of the cars on the street have snow drifting up against them they would need digging out for starters.

Only guy to have gone anywhere this morning was in a nissan patrol st johns ambulance.
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #17 on: December 01, 2010, 15:42:10 »
Im not convinced, I have been driving my h plate BMW 318iS about in 4 inches of snow.....on normal tyres, with no reall issues, just remebering that some of the steering now done by the rear?! all I have done is take the front splitter off?
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #18 on: December 01, 2010, 16:21:42 »
again driving my recycle lorry today I had no real problems on the ice where as 1 woman failed in her fiesta to make it up a slight hill then after about 5 minutes went back into her road to go back home. Why she didnt turn left and go DOWN the hill to the obviously gritted road at the bottom and go to work that way is beyond me. Also another mum with daughter in the passenger seat got stuck getting out of her drive. I jumped out and said put it in 2nd and it will be easier. The look of shock on her face when she got off her drive 1st time with ease.  :doh:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #19 on: December 01, 2010, 16:27:46 »
Taking the Ignis out in the snow is one thing, but I won't even try moving the skyline  :evil:
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #20 on: December 02, 2010, 02:27:11 »
Fiesta has been absolutely cracking in the snow.  Micra is I'm afraid broken down again, well it has done nearly 34,000miles from new so I suppose it should expect it :roll:

The problem round here is van drivers who don't know when to give up and truck drivers who for some bizare reason think that when the truck in front gets stuck or just stops because of the 7 miles of solid traffic ahead of it, the correct thing to do is pull alongside, get stuck/slide/jacknife and then leave the damn thing in the way so the snow plough can't get through.

We live almost within sight of a motorway and yet have been cut-off for over a day already.  Unconfirmed reports that a section of the main road heading the other way has collapsed too, so even if I had a RR ready to go I could drive as far as the pub, only to find the car park full of abandoned cars!
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Re: New Law to Ban all 2 wheel Drive cars if 0 degrees or under !!
« Reply #21 on: December 02, 2010, 11:00:25 »
Years ago my first car was a front drive polo. I was able to get almost anywhere because it had skinny tires on and I drove it carefully. Aslo later in live I managed to get around in a RWD MR2 driving between Cheltenham and Cirencester in a reasonable amount of snow

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