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ES1000 or ES3000 for parabolics on 88"
« on: June 20, 2005, 22:30:58 »
I am considering upgrading my suspension to parabolics, I am probably going to get CPC's 2 leafs (front and rear).

On the CPC website they recommend the Pro Comp ES1000 with my springs and the ES3000 for the heavy duty (3 leaf) springs.

However, its cheaper to buy the ES3000 from Paddock Spares rather than the ES1000 from CPC.

Which shock would be best suited to my application?

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P.S  My Landy is a 88" with full length canvas, its used 80% on road, 20% off road with some occasional towing. (ignore the photo, thats my other Landy!)

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2005, 15:24:39 »
Don't have any experience of the ES1000s but my truck's got British (CPC) Springs and ES3000 shocks and it's an excellent set-up.

My truck a 88" Hard Top and the springs are two leaf front and rear.

I got my ES3000s from Paddocks as they have a price promise and beat Pro Comps price.

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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2005, 16:08:11 »
What are CPC spring's, and why 2 leaf and not 3 leaf?
ps...sorry for jumping in on you're post :D

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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2005, 21:36:09 »
i fitted rocky mountain 2 leaf parabolics on mine and procomp9000 shocks, couldn't be happier with the ride and handling :D
cpc are chris perfect springs i think!? i believe there are a bit pricey though! :cry:
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2005, 22:40:07 »
Quote from: "neil thorne"
i fitted rocky mountain 2 leaf parabolics on mine and procomp9000 shocks, couldn't be happier with the ride and handling :D
Glad to hear that - that setup currently being installed on mine at the mo :wink:


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Bought them now!
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2005, 22:50:06 »
Thanks for the advice, I've bought them now!

Yes CPC is Chris Perfect Components ( http://www.chrisperfect.com ) their parts are expenisive but their spings are of very high quality (or so I've heard) I'm also impressed by their continual product development.   I only purchased the springs and u bolts from them, all the other parts are coming from Paddock's (with some healthy savings  :D)

One more question, I've also ordered the 1 ton shackle plates, primarily  to give the clearence I need to fit some 110 axles.

How will fitting these long shackles effect the on road handling? The CPC website mentions they will put extra strain on the springs?

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« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2005, 23:08:46 »
i have extened shackles fitted to mine and it hasn;t really made any noticeable difference to the handling, though i have only done abowt 7-800 miles,but most of that was on the bala trip earlier in the year :D  :D  :D
200tdi over 200kmiles
+2"lift.
Procomp Es9000 shocks
235 MT's on silver modulars
diff guards
tank guard
Paidia4x4 winch bumper.
Discoparts HD rear bumper.
Champion 10000N winch
CB and CDplayer
Safari snorkel
modified turbo actuator vac pipe pick up.
twin batteries with Paidia4x4 split charge system
roof lightbar

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« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2005, 20:24:47 »
I run a series 3 every day with extended shackles with no problems at all, all i will say is that this alters the diff angle, the rear diff nose will sit up and the front diff nose will sit down.  This can cause some vibration espessialy if you have a border line prop.

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Re: Bought them now!
« Reply #8 on: July 19, 2005, 21:29:28 »
Quote from: "ep90"
Thanks for the advice, I've bought them now!



Did you get the springs and shocks fitted?  What are they like?

Just wondering as this is the setup I'm considering for my next 'upgrade'  :D

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« Reply #9 on: August 17, 2005, 06:15:59 »
Yup, springs and shocks fitted - the ride is improved (not exactly a coil sprung ride though!)

I would recommend going down the polybush road, I have got std rubber bushes and they give a stiffer ride.

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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2005, 13:05:11 »
i put paddocks parabolics on mine, and still have the standard dampers.
the springs are one of the best things that i have done
should have upgraded the dampers at the same time tho
as soon as i can afford it, i'm getting the procomp 3000s,
the standard ones seem to be okay, but after a few miles they get incredibly hot, and the vehicle seems to pitch forward and backward alot more than it used to.

the ride isnt as soft as a coil sprung motor, but i think they are too soft and roll far too much. i prefer mine with the parabolics.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2005, 14:55:23 »
Was down paddocks yesterday picking some extended shackles, was pointed out that not adviseable using extended shackles on an 88 with parabolics
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2005, 15:26:01 »
Quote from: "hobbit"
Was down paddocks yesterday picking some extended shackles, was pointed out that not adviseable using extended shackles on an 88 with parabolics
I have extended shackles with parabolics and ES 3000 shock's and the ride is still very hard, im going to try it with out the extended shackles.

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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2005, 17:13:55 »
Was wondering, I didn't ask why, cause the motor the shackles there going on has norm springs anyway
Kev

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