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Title: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 03, 2005, 22:25:52
just had a thought

i need to lift another 25mm which i will do with spring spacers

now i have springs that are 70mm longer than normal with +2 inch procomp shocks

i have seen the rear shock mounts that hold twin shocks and i have also seen them with a lower mounting  option

can you get them anywhere that do both (double shock and lower 1 inch)

and can you get front turrets that do the same

as my thinking is that if i lift another inch then i should lower the shocks too......the setup and ride now is perfect
Title: Re: double shock mountings
Post by: Henry Webster on July 03, 2005, 23:13:48
Sorry, obvious question time. :?

If...
Quote from: "chuggaman"
...the setup and ride now is perfect


Then why change it?

H
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Xtremeteam on July 03, 2005, 23:15:27
my twin front shockies
Title: Re: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 03, 2005, 23:36:38
Quote from: "Henry Webster"
Sorry, obvious question time. :?

If...
Quote from: "chuggaman"
...the setup and ride now is perfect


Then why change it?

H


the bolt on steel goodies

eg bumpers winch and more to come


weigh a ton and have dropped the lift by an inch

also the next set of tyres are going to e bigger
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 03, 2005, 23:38:05
Quote from: "V8_redline7500"
my twin front shockies



thats what i want

is the turret standard height
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Andy. on July 03, 2005, 23:39:28
You might be after a Wizardbilt twin shock mount system http://www.wizardbilt.com/page2.htm.
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: toger on July 04, 2005, 00:28:11
Does wiz do front twins?
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: thermidorthelobster on July 04, 2005, 08:50:54
How about the back end of a Disco II?  I find with the air springs at the back, it gets quite bouncy at times, even with OME shocks.  Would twins make a difference?
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Bulli on July 04, 2005, 11:40:08
Twin shochs will make a difference because you shocks are only having to work half as hard, therfore the oil is cooler and so the damping effect is better. Only problem i can see is that the twin set up is not going to move as freely offroad. They are very popular with comp safari where they are driven very fast and so overheat rapidly.
Chuggerman,I wouldnt lift the front end with spacers myself, i did it and the results aren't brilliant.
The reason why your springs are compressed is because the are overloaded, designed for less weight. If you correct the ride height by spacers then you are not addressing the problem as springs are cleverly designed to work with a specific open, closed and loaded length. This set up will never work as well as the correct spring- as the spring is already compressed beyond its initial coils. On progressive springs the first movement is rapid to cope with large potholes, etc whilst traveling at speed. Hence you will have a stiffer less comfortable ride if they are compressed beyond this point.
I know of a company that can make springs to your spec, they make them for a few large 4x4 specialists. It is the best way to do it.
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 04, 2005, 16:41:31
but i am happy with te springs

just need that tiny bit more lift and to drop the shocks 2 inches so they are right

found what i need at scorpion
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Xtremeteam on July 04, 2005, 18:46:09
i fitted longet/taller springs so i could get more clearance between the bumpstop & axle so i had more travel for doin the comps,had the chop saw all set up ready for choping the mounts so i could lower them an inch BUT  if i did lower them & lost a bumpstop it would rip the shock clean off so just left it as it was,

i think the front turets are standard height
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 04, 2005, 20:11:57
this pic shows the reason for the extra inch

this is just sitting on the road on full lock

misses the inner arch by 1 inch

hence when i welly it under uneven surfaces it sometimes hits

scorpion do a - 2" turret ander after a chat with them they will do this with an extra shock mount

so the finished suspension setup will give

4" lift all round and with the procomp plus 2 lowered by 2" all round they will be at the right height

the additions of double shocks all round will then stiffen things up a bit and give me that extra inch i need in the front
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Bulli on July 04, 2005, 23:18:48
Ive removed that edge, the 35 catch it whatever you do. Why not fit standard height front turrets and buy 4 inch longer shocks??? then you will have even more droop! Just a thought. I have resigned myself to having poorer handling on the road for major improvments off it.
Why not be really unconventional and sort out the limiting factor on all landrovers, the front radius arms.
Have you uprated your propshafts as they will be the most likely thing to pop and are a pain in the bum when they do, as you are normaly miles from anywhere in the middle of a bog.
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Wanderer on July 04, 2005, 23:22:54
You can slice the top off the existing turret and then invert it after a bit of grinding. Then weld it back into place.

Ed
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: chuggaman on July 04, 2005, 23:46:04
Quote from: "Bulli"
Ive removed that edge, the 35 catch it whatever you do. Why not fit standard height front turrets and buy 4 inch longer shocks??? then you will have even more droop! Just a thought. I have resigned myself to having poorer handling on the road for major improvments off it.
Why not be really unconventional and sort out the limiting factor on all landrovers, the front radius arms.
Have you uprated your propshafts as they will be the most likely thing to pop and are a pain in the bum when they do, as you are normaly miles from anywhere in the middle of a bog.


you need to put some pics in your gallery
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Bulli on July 05, 2005, 09:28:12
will try to do tonight, i was waiting for the next stage in the development...i have 15inch travel shocks ready and waiting, thats 3 inch more than scorpion at the front and an inch longer at the back. Will try and get a few photos done then keep you posted.
3 link is the future...you going to billing?? I should make it for the Saturday night/Sunday
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: toger on July 05, 2005, 18:04:53
What years your disco please bulli?
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: Bulli on July 05, 2005, 20:57:22
92 v8 efi, isnt you avatar the safari gard one on their website?
Title: double shock mountings
Post by: toger on July 05, 2005, 21:12:02
sure is.
It's a case of want but can't afford :D
You must have some cash if you can stuff :D
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