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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: iianorthants on July 05, 2005, 10:28:27
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Need a snorkel, but not sure if paying twice the price on a safari one is justified! (as could use extra money towards a winch) :wink: .
Has anyone that fitted a safari (not just for looks :roll: ) Actually noticed any benefits, as only one I can see is top end road cruising with the ram air effect :? .
But I don’t drive fast due to tyres and such and fuel econ i assume wouldn't be effected much which ever fitted!
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The ram effect is minimal unless you drive *very* fast :-)
I have a Southdown snorkel on mine.. which has the scoop type top (which I prefer the look of) but is cheaper than the Safari and doesn't sit on the outside of the wing.
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Got mine from Devon 4x4 (as usual ;-))
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The Safari unit does look the business and is monumentally tough but I went Mantec on Flower - doesn't stick out from the wing cos I've seen a couple that have been forcefully removed by 'grabby' scenary. I've got the mushroom because apperently they're better than at removing dust (but having seen my air filter I have doubts......)
Interestingly, I now have a 2" bore of pipe that plumbs straight into the filter housing and she breathes better as a result. The Safari one relies on all the plastic plumbing inside the wing and that still adds a minor restriction and requires oddles of sillycon to seal.
The safari one won't rust and is really UV resistant. My Mantec one is covered in blistered powdercoat.
If I had to make the choice again, I'd go Southdown.
cheers
Eeyore
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There is no advantage to the Safari other than rustproofness and style preference. The ram-air effect isn't going to make much difference, and on the minus side it'll inhale more wasps and rain; if Safari did a mushroom, I'd probably use that instead.
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I find it quite bad that the Safari is the most expesive, given that it's probably the cheapest to make. There no more than a couople of quid in the material and a few minutes to finish off the exterior parts. That said the moulding process involved does mean that the moulding has no thermal memory and will retain it's original shape if deformed.
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I was going to go Southdown myself but mainly because fitting a Safari on a 200 is a tad difficult in terms of access in the wing.
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Just fitted a Safari Snorkle to my 200tdi, must admit it looks good. If you put your hand in front of the intake you can feel the air rushing past (dont do it whilst driving :wink: )
I have noticed an improvement, but I also adjusted the tappets and replaced the air filter which was clogged with mud for a new one. :oops: at the same time.
I also ensured that every joint and drain hole was filled with silicone to avoid any water ingress. I intend to fit a drain hose with a tap at the lowest point just incase any water does get in.
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Paul,
Was it easy to fit. There doesn't seem to be any room in the wing to fix it on?
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Guy,
I did the following,
1. remove the grill
2. disconnect the inner part of the intake from the lower section of the intake
3. remove the washer bottle to get to the hose.
4. disconnect the hose from the lower intake moulded section
5. seal all joints with silicone and reassemble.
its a bit of a tight squeeze but you can get you hand up inside the wing to get to the bits (just about)
The above bit took the longest, just because its a tight squeeze and fiddly. I found it best to pull the hose through the wing to reattach to the bottom of the moulded intake.
Once you've done this it's plain sailing. The snorkle seals around the existing intake and bolts to the wing with 3 new holes.
Supplied in the kit is 2 threaded rivets which you need a special tool to insert so I just used a nut it's i bit more tricky trying to hold the nut whilst tightening the bolt but it can be done.
In all took about 2 hours.
Use plenty of silicone to seal all joints.
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safari here as well. As Topple said it is easy to fit. I actual bought a rivnut tool to fit the bolts and to be honest it is one of the best £50 I have spent on a tool, I use it on almost everything.
(http://members.mud-club.com/galleryimages/487161-1117465362.JPG)
I normaly drive around with the 'mouth' reversed though, I learnt a lesson about mud and water at waddon that I dont intend to learn again :roll: