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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Matt_H on July 09, 2005, 18:24:04
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Thinking of getting a set of jackable side sills for the disco.
I'm finding with the bigger tyres in certain possitions that they can catch on the plastic ones - my rear arches have been trimmed a little to cope but they are not catching on the sills themselves.
Can anyone tell me, if you've bough a set of jackable sills, are they any shorter than the original items, if so how much by and which ones?
TIA
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Take a tape measure around Billing would be my advice.
Also, have a chat to Richard @ Mill Services... he has Discovery sills in production now... if you wanted a set an inch or so shorter, I'm sure he'd oblige. He's a couple of stands along from us by the river.
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Rebel 4x4 will make them to order too.
Give them the dimensions and they'll knock you up a pair
:D
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I think it was Rebel I tried to email but never got a reply - will try them again as they were quite cheap.
Some of the ones I've seen had a plate that covered the original sill - any ideas if rebels ones do this? At £178 they aren't too bad either :-)
Matthew
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Take a tape measure around Billing would be my advice.
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I forgot about billing - hmm best not go as 've not much money left at the moment :-(
Talking of buying stuff.. oh I'll post you a pm..
Matthew
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I take it your not coming to Billing then Matt?
Shame
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I wouldn't mind goingand may well do, but perhaps leave the wallet at home, saying that I don't think apart from side sills that there is anything I need so probably wont spend anyu money.
Saying that I could do with some extended brake pipes, but I've ben toying with a few ideas
1) disattach the brakets then weld them 1" at each side closer to each other bending the exisiting copper pipes to match
2) making up a copper extension piece (it seems to only need a standard male and female with a short section of pipe)
3) buy new pipes
4) totally modify the brakes so that the front pipes run back along the body then back up the radius arms (with an appropraite flexible section in between)
and my thoughts on those are:-
1) is easy and bodge and I wont need to bleed the brakes... however I'll probably snap a pipe when rebending as the two callipers I've taken off so far have done exactly that.
2) can't think of any reason not to try this - will have to bleed the brakes
3) will have to bleed the brakes
4) as 3
I hate bleeding brakes by the way!
Matthew
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I had my side bar made to measure by W&H Wheelcarriers, who will be a Billing, I gave them the length I wanted and they adjusted the bars to suit. I got the ones with the tree bars instead of the jackable ones, acts as a side step if nothing else!! :wink:
They a galvi'ed and sprayed over the top with galvi' fittings. :D
This is the only photo I have to hand of them, it's not very good but you can just about see them. :?
(http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/landrovers/disco14.jpg)
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?
Matthew
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Some of the ones I've seen had a plate that covered the original sill - any ideas if rebels ones do this? At £178 they aren't too bad either :-)
I must admit, I've not seen the Mill Services ones first hand yet, so I'm not sure how they attach. I do know they are £158 inc delivery.... so they are cheaper even than the Rebels ones... good quality too.
There you go... I just saved you the cost of your entry ticket to Billing... no reason not to come now 8)
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?
Matthew
They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.
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have just emailed them.. sounds like a small company that make their own, I therefore hope that means he takes more pride than your average service drone and we'll get good quality and service - will call on monday if no reply :-)
I thought it was free to walk into billing.... Last year I parked in the pub :-) The snorkel and high lift jack was a bit heavy carrying it though!
Matthew
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?
Matthew
They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.
The expensive ones then :-(
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ooooh you've got nice wheel arch extensions too.... what are they?
Matthew
They look like the Devon 4x4 arches to me.
The expensive ones then :-(
Thats the ones
I want them too
:D
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I'd like some, however being expensive and made of GRP (i.e. glass fibre) I'd be too worried about breaking them).. Whilst glass fibre is pretty strong if it gets a whack in the right place it tends to badly craze then crack - my kit car is a GRP monocoque with the only steel in the side sills!
Matthew
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Yep, they're the Rangie Spares arches from Oz that Devon 4x4 sell. :D
Nope, they weren't cheep! :( (Budgie joke there, sorry!)
Not had any problems with them cracking, mind you, we don't have many trees on the island so that could be a factor!! :-k
Still if they stand up to the Outback & Rain Forest Challenges then they're good enough for me. :wink:
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Oh, I found another photo of the bars, that I did for Mace I think, with the dimentions on. :wink:
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sweet photo budgie, looks nice.
I have broken a devon arch, replacement cost 50 quid from devon! :cry: trying to avoid hitting anything else.
The ones from paddock are cheap(sills) but you may have to shorten them by quite a bit- so if you are reasonable with the old welder you could save some brass.....i think they are about 100 quid.
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I'm after a new set for my 300 tdi too. The last set I bought didn't fit and I wasn't too pleased. So far I've only found Scorpion or WH as an alternative source for Tree-Bar clad sliders. Anyone else got any ideas?
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Anyone else got any ideas?
Discoparts? http://www.discoparts.com/Products/Protection/Rock_Sliders/rock_sliders.html
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Simon, errr see my post above !
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Simon, errr see my post above !
What, this post?
I'm after a new set for my 300 tdi too. The last set I bought didn't fit and I wasn't too pleased. So far I've only found Scorpion or WH as an alternative source for Tree-Bar clad sliders. Anyone else got any ideas?
Am I to assume then that the ones that didn't fit were Discoparts? If so, then maybe not those :wink: Although my ones from there are very good.
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I ordered them 3 weeks prior to WWW, fingers crossed my refund will be in the post today. :evil: I just can't bring myself to pay £375 from Scorpion. :twisted:
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Well on the recommendation of muddyweb I've spoken to Mill services.. He has standard and 2" shorter off the shelf as it were... I'm getting a set of galvanised with tree sliders for £195.. He'll powder coat them if you prefer also.. However I wanted mine for billing so I'm just going to have the galvanised 2" shorter ones then I'l paint them myself.
I'll let you all know what they are like on sunday or early next week
Matt
PS what's etch primer?
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just buy a set of jackable sidesills
put them on and mark the amount to be removed
then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends
thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell
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If Rebel 4x4 dont have the side steps i ordered (a month ago, still no response from e-mail) at Billing then i will be making my own.
If this happens i'll stick it in thread that i'll be starting soon after Billing.
:D
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just buy a set of jackable sidesills
put them on and mark the amount to be removed
then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends
thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell
The one's I got from W&H were the same price as the normal size. They just cut it to the length I asked for, before welding the tree bars on. They are also Galvi'ed and coated, though not as cheap as £195!! :wink:
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Cheers budgie for the dimensions of your sills you sent me
We'll see if Rebel come through!
:?
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just buy a set of jackable sidesills
put them on and mark the amount to be removed
then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends
thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell
The one's I got from W&H were the same price as the normal size. They just cut it to the length I asked for, before welding the tree bars on. They are also Galvi'ed and coated, though not as cheap as £195!! :wink:
nothing is cheap mate
thats why ive started to get things made
like a custom built small ground anchor
and rear wing protection
also your vehicle develops to your taste and your own personal needs
yours by the way is looking very good
have you fitted those rear twin shocks yet ????
i will be doing that too as soon as my bits arrive
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Cheers budgie for the dimensions of your sills you sent me
We'll see if Rebel come through!
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Ah, so twas yourself, sorry Jake forgot who I sent them too! :roll:
yours by the way is looking very good
have you fitted those rear twin shocks yet ????
i will be doing that too as soon as my bits arrive
No, Still not got round to it yet. Too much else to get done, CV joints, rear prop, Rangie brakes etc etc.........
I'll get round to it soon, still got to get a pair of +2" ES9000's before I fit the mountings! :wink:
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Cheers budgie for the dimensions of your sills you sent me
We'll see if Rebel come through!
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Ah, so twas yourself, sorry Jake forgot who I sent them too! :roll:
yours by the way is looking very good
have you fitted those rear twin shocks yet ????
i will be doing that too as soon as my bits arrive
No, Still not got round to it yet. Too much else to get done, CV joints, rear prop, Rangie brakes etc etc.........
I'll get round to it soon, still got to get a pair of +2" ES9000's before I fit the mountings! :wink:
are the wizardbiult mountings lower than normal or do you just weld the top mounts where you like
ive got a set of 2 inch lower front turrets with double shock mounts being prepaired and a set of rear shock mounts 2 inch lowered.....but i need an extra rear shock mount that will match
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Ah, so twas yourself, sorry Jake forgot who I sent them too! :roll:
lol
No worries. I read that earler and thought that you must have sent them to a few people!
:D
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are the wizardbiult mountings lower than normal or do you just weld the top mounts where you like
ive got a set of 2 inch lower front turrets with double shock mounts being prepaired and a set of rear shock mounts 2 inch lowered.....but i need an extra rear shock mount that will match
Wizard's mounts are standard top mounts and you get the bolts, washers & nuts (stainless!!) in the kit so you just line up where you want the shocker to go and drill the chassis to take the standard mount. :D
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just buy a set of jackable sidesills
put them on and mark the amount to be removed
then take them to your local blacksmith and have him weld up the ends
thats what im doing and i am also making them into sidesteps aswell
If they are galvanised (or powder coated) when the ends are welded up you'll have a nice bit that rusts faster than a british car at the sea-side, so you'll need to galvanise/powder coat or paint the ends again... Easier to get them made shorter in the first place I reckon!
Matt