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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: colintandy on July 20, 2005, 09:26:31
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can anybody tell me how easy/hard is it to change bushes on a disco1 200tdi and what difference it makes and how hard is the a frame ball joint at the rear end anybody done this or is it a case of me taken into neneoverland regards colin
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I Have them fitted to my 1992 200TDi, along with De-Carbon shocks.
I can say that they make the ride 100% better. I have the Polybush (Genuine ones) Blue. They make the handling much better and the ride is softer.
As for fitting, it takes a good day, and unless you have acess to a descent press and air tools, i wouldnt tackle it on your drive. It is also worth paying the extra and gertting the bolt kit.
As for the a frame, i didnt fit it, as it wasnt in the kit igot. But i have it in mind for the future, as i have heard that it makes the biggest difference overall. :D
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thanks sharpshooter just a quick question about your nickname what is your other hobby would i be correct in assuming you into shooting or am miles away
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thanks sharpshooter just a quick question about your nickname what is your other hobby would i be correct in assuming you into shooting or am miles away
Hi Colin, your close, im actually an Assasin, but I use the Name Sharpshooter to put people of my trail.
No your right, i love to shoot when im not getting muddy. I use a cut down V8 bobtailed rangey for that. :D
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was only asking cos i use to shoot alot in army competitions down at bisley ranges in aldershot and senalager ranges in germany is a great sport
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The environmentaly friendly way to remove your old bushes is to burn out the rubber with a blowtorch then cut through the steel outer with a hacksaw until it fallls out, then clean up and push the polybush in. I did this for my Panhard rod which I'd say is one of the most important bushes to have in good nick but I admit to buying new front radius arms and rear trailing links. I also havn't done the rear A frame yet and I'm interested by the comment above from Sharpshooter.
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but without a press its hard going changin the ball joint,to get it out u need to cut the lugs of the old balljoint so you can rest the a frame on the bed o the press & push the ball joint out
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I've always used RRB's environmentally friendly way of extracting the old rubber bushes, just be careful when cutting the last peice out that you don't score the I/D of the radius arm or trailing arm!!
Fitting the Polybushes (I've also got Poly Blue's on the Disco) is easy and requires little effort.
With the A-frame ball joint (will be doing mine in the next week or so) I've used heat in the passed to expand the outer casing and the joint has come out with little effort, or maybe I was just lucky! :?
To got the new one in either use a press, if have one handy, or use a little heat on the casing and stick the joint in the freezer for a while to cool it, once the joint is in place then cool the casing ASAP so the heat doesn't transfer into the joint.
I know it sounds a bit like butcher'ish but needs must if you don't have access to a press and it worked with my old Rangie. :(scared):
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Combinations of heat/cooling often impart less stress on componets than pressing alone. I too have only the intermittent gravity press at my disposal but fortunately I have a spare pair of A frame arms to rebush ready to fit.
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I have fitted a set of deflex poly bushes to mine using a bushwacka bush removal tool to remove the old bushes ,took me 6 hours to do the whole lot the only ones i havent done yet are the front shock bushes as i,m going to fit new shocks soon, they have improved the ride loads but then my old bushes were well knackered so anything would improve it
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looks like im gonna get some knacked knuckles again spent 12 hrs couple weeks ago re-fitting my series 111 88 inch with new cpc parabolics and es1000 gas shockers all i can say is pass the grinder if it all goes pete tong then ill turn it upside down and make a bbq all invited of course
thatl please the neighboughs! roast the rover will make a new meaning to engine compartment meals
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It's worth spending an afternoon making sure all the nuts/bolts will come out first. Undo the nuts a turn or so then see if the bolt will spin in the bush. One of my radius arm bush-bolts was seized to the bush, behind the axle of course. Took me 3 hours to remove :evil: which made the radius arms a day's job with a piar of arms ready prep'd to go on (QT of course).
Don't worry if the nut won't go all the way down the thread, as long as the bolt is free you can cut the rusty exposed thread off BEFORE trying to remove the nut (use LR special tool #2, the angle grinder).
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I'd go along with that Andy, I already know I'm going to have problems with the two bolts that hold the A-frame balljoint to the arms, the nuts come off without a problem but the bolts are stuck in the balljoint mounting so a little heat there as well!! :twisted:
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i was very jammy i must admit as all the bolts came undone no probs on my 1990 V8, however on my 1998 300tdi which has never been offroad i had to cut the bolts off the rear arms and the front ones as they were completly seized
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I'm luck I have access to a hydraulic press, thank god.
Mind you my mate was at Newark Autojumble last sunday and someone had a nice one there, he didn't have enough pennies to get it though, pity