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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: Dangermouse on August 11, 2005, 18:00:28

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Dangermouse on August 11, 2005, 18:00:28

Anybody done it , is much modifacation involved, what box is beast for a 90  :?:

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 11, 2005, 18:14:11

I've got a TDI auto 90, the box is a ZF 4speed out of a Disco, it needed no modding but i have a 300tdi which is the r380 transmission tunnel, if yours is earlier then you will need to modify the tunnel.  The shifter comes out of the center seat box and that is coverd with an Ali sheet and then carpet, very neat (Turn the old gearlever gaitor inside out and it is a bottle holder).  The work was done By Martin Dransfield in Dewsbury (Landrover Enthusiast bod).  I saw a TD that had been converted to a V8 auto and that had the tunnel and bulkhead modified (with a lump hammer i think, it looked awful)

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: muddyweb on August 11, 2005, 18:23:22

Yep.. I've done it.

The ZF box is your best bet IMHO.. and there are plenty about usually.

What engine do you have ?

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Dangermouse on August 11, 2005, 18:29:42

It's a 86 90 with the origenal naturaly asmatic diesel engine  :roll:
if i can stretch the money that will change as well.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 11, 2005, 18:32:52

Quote from: "Dangermouse"

It's a 86 90 with the origenal naturaly asmatic diesel engine  :roll:
if i can stretch the money that will change as well.

You need to, a NAD will struggle like hell to pull you with an auto on it.  Uncles NAD struggled to pull its self with a manual.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Dangermouse on August 11, 2005, 18:41:58

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You need to, a NAD will struggle like hell to pull you with an auto on it. Uncles NAD struggled to pull its self with a manual.

 :lol:  I know all about that  :D

I,v had it in mind to upgrade the engine for a long time' but arthritis is makeing gear changeing a real problem now, so the gear box has to come first besides im used to chugging along in the slow lane  :lol:

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 11, 2005, 18:47:09

Quote from: "Dangermouse"

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You need to, a NAD will struggle like hell to pull you with an auto on it. Uncles NAD struggled to pull its self with a manual.

 :lol:  I know all about that  :D

I,v had it in mind to upgrade the engine for a long time' but arthritis is makeing gear changeing a real problem now, so the gear box has to come first besides im used to chugging along in the slow lane  :lol:

You might get a good deal on a engine + box from a Disco, one went on Ebay a week or so ago.  Good Luck!

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Range Rover Blues on August 12, 2005, 18:34:10

I think you would need a diesl box for a diesel engine anyway, and a lot of s/h auto boxes are from V8s, which don't fit.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 12, 2005, 18:36:12

Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"

I think you would need a diesl box for a diesel engine anyway, and a lot of s/h auto boxes are from V8s, which don't fit.

Yes, you do, the gears on the V8 are set up differently and the bell housing is not the same.  Thats what I was told anyway.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: barmiebrumie on August 12, 2005, 18:37:30

Hi, anyone ever put an auto to a perkins 3.8 in a rangie:?: , would love that if its possible,

thanks  BB.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 12, 2005, 18:44:27

Quote from: "barmiebrumie"

Hi, anyone ever put an auto to a perkins 3.8 in a rangie:?: , would love that if its possible,

thanks  BB.

I saw a 109 perkins auto on ebay a year or so ago so it must be possible.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: barmiebrumie on August 13, 2005, 07:43:53

So there is hope for me then :lol:

thanks BB.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: scooby on August 20, 2005, 23:54:12

Get the wife to drive you around in "Bell" aswell as her one then it works out cheaper and not alot off work to place the auto box in.
Hows the petrol going in bell then sorry it takes drev"  just rember next time a drev the black pump.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 22, 2005, 21:48:36

Im juts bought a 300tdi with auto and Im putting in my 90 hybrid (basically a 90) as we speak.  

You would need a tdi though as the 2.5 td and the 2.5 is no way near powerful\enough.

Keep an eye of the forum as I'll post the full conversion in the next few days mate

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Xtremeteam on August 22, 2005, 21:50:28

Quote from: "landyman1978"

Im juts bought a 300tdi with auto and Im putting in my 90 hybrid (basically a 90) as we speak.  

You would need a tdi though as the 2.5 td and the 2.5 is no way near powerful\enough.

Keep an eye of the forum as I'll post the full conversion in the next few days mate

ash;you no got that finished yet  :lol:  :lol: mines starts/stops & goes,just got to do the killer bit & repair the seat box & weld the rear x member,oh & prep the other 90 for the compsafari this wknd  :evil:

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 22, 2005, 21:55:12

Quote from: "landyman1978"

 
the 2.5 td is no way near powerful\enough.

I saw a TD auto advertised a year and a half ago so it must be possible.  A bit of a nail though i expect

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 22, 2005, 22:02:07

Im sure a TD auto will work but I find even the Tdi is a little under powered so I would be wairy.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 22, 2005, 22:04:45

Quote from: "landyman1978"

Im sure a TD auto will work but I find even the Tdi is a little under powered so I would be wairy.

Thats cos your used to having a proper engine.  I got the TDI auto after running a 4.0 Jeep and it took some getting used to.  No problem offroad but a bit of a b****r on the motorway.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 22, 2005, 22:08:47

Quote from: "jim-willy"

Quote from: "landyman1978"

Im sure a TD auto will work but I find even the Tdi is a little under powered so I would be wairy.

Thats cos your used to having a proper engine.  I got the TDI auto after running a 4.0 Jeep and it took some getting used to.  No problem offroad but a bit of a b****r on the motorway.

I know what you mean!!  I was running a V8 auto.  TDi auto was fine till I used it to tow the Hybrid.  Blimey was it slow!!!  Now putting ther same engine and box in the hybrid buts it off road only.  Going to intercool upgrade the Disco to see how it helps.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 24, 2005, 16:13:39

Quote from: "V8_redline7500"

ash;you no got that finished yet  :lol:  :lol: mines starts/stops & goes,just got to do the killer bit & repair the seat box & weld the rear x member,oh & prep the other 90 for the compsafari this wknd  :evil:

Not yet mate, its in, mounts welded, plumbed in but the girlfriend didnt seem quite so keen to hang round the farm and watch me get it started.... :x

Going to finish it this weekend then its play time next weekend!!!!!  Missing a couple of bits (header tank etc) so not long!!

I'll post the pics so far hopefully tonight  :wink:

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 24, 2005, 16:16:35

Seeing as most of you run autos.....

...anyone got any pics of how you've done them in a 90???

The shifter I mean!!

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 24, 2005, 22:22:29

Quote from: "landyman1978"

Seeing as most of you run autos.....

...anyone got any pics of how you've done them in a 90???

The shifter I mean!!

If nobody puts one on before i'll post a piccy tommorow aft.

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 24, 2005, 22:33:42

That would be grand mate!!

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 25, 2005, 10:44:36

Piccys

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 25, 2005, 13:35:52

EXCELLANT!!!

Thats exactly what I wanted.

Used to have a cubby box but when I started doing the engine change I ran over it DOH!!!!

I'll just put the shifter there now and a little box of some sort.

Many thanks Jim-Willy, really helpful!

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Jim-Willy on August 26, 2005, 18:33:37

That little cubby box just fits behind the gearlever (After a bit of modification) and only cost £20.

http://www.roadking.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=86

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: Porny on August 26, 2005, 18:43:19

Some pictures from when my mate fitted a Auto to his 90"...

http://www.550-spyder.co.uk/Landy%20Area/Landy.htm - click on v8 install.

Worth having a look around on his site.... quite a bit of interesting stuff!!!



Ian

Title: Auto box into a 90
Post by: landyman Ash on August 26, 2005, 20:52:28

WOW, both fanatastic.  I love the little cubby and cheap!!

now I love the chequer plate design.  I think I'll do a temp job to start with and go for an option like that....

I love thinking about designing my landy!!!  :D  :D  :D  :P  :P  :P