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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: robbie on September 28, 2005, 23:22:12

Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on September 28, 2005, 23:22:12
Where the hell is it?? I can see the one on the main box but cant for the life of me find the one on the transfer box.

It is not filled from the main box is it??

AND

What is the correct type of oil in there. It looks like auto box oil in the main box, or at least it is very red and not lke the hypoid 80/90 type of oil
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: muddyweb on September 28, 2005, 23:25:28
On the back of the transfer box, about halfway up... just in line with the edge of the handbrake drum.

It's a 1/2" square drive.

The transfer box oil is EP80/90 unless the box has been changed for something non-standard.
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: muddyweb on September 28, 2005, 23:26:11
BTW.. The gearbox is ATF.. you can change this for MTF if you prefer.
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: hobbit on September 29, 2005, 13:09:12
Just here
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on September 29, 2005, 17:45:32
Thanks guys, as ever, invaluable :)

There is so much crap around there I must have missed it. I think I was looking a little higher to be honest.

Is the oil in the main box the red stuff like autobox oil?? It seemed to be when I dipped it with my finger to check the level
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: V8MoneyPit on September 29, 2005, 18:09:59
This assumes one of the 5 speed boxes. The LT95 uses engine oil (15W/40) in the main box and transfer box if I remember correctly.
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 29, 2005, 18:18:50
the LT 85 & 95 both use engine oil for lubrication but all Tboxes apart from the borgwarner use EP90/80
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on September 29, 2005, 21:05:03
now then, just when I thought I knew what I was going to do, it gets more complex.

How do I tell hat type of box it is?? All I know is that it has a 5 speed main box.........

 :?
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: muddyweb on September 29, 2005, 21:11:59
What engine is in there ?
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: Thrasher on September 29, 2005, 21:12:09
R380- with an LT230 Transfer box.....

Doh....not the Disco .. fool Neil!

Well...unless is is a 3.5 V8 .. it's not going to have an LT95 .. so it's possibly an LT77 with an LT230 on the back.....he says, as the others are 4 speed. Oh it might be an LT85 .. but er .... possibly not if it is a diesel.
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: muddyweb on September 29, 2005, 21:16:58
Yeah...

Probably worth finding out what the engine is then ;-)
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 29, 2005, 21:21:17
Ill try n list First G box then T box
 
if its a tdi & reverse is forward its an LT77 & LT230
if its a tdi & reverse is backwards its a R380 & LT230
If its a V8 same applies above for the discoverys & defenders

If its a 90 or 110 factory V8 im 99.9999% sure it will be a LT85 santana split case which takes engine oil

if its a rangie classic & has only a High or Low lever it has a borgwarner T box & that takes ATF for lubrication,all othet Tboxs take EP80 or 90
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on September 29, 2005, 22:09:31
it is a diesel 90......  :)

a 2.5 N/A one at that on a '85  B plate
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: dazzawhipple on September 30, 2005, 08:11:13
Quote from: "robbie"
it is a diesel 90......  :)

a 2.5 N/A one at that on a '85  B plate


It should be LT77 gearbox and LT230 If its not been played with

Reverse is top left (next to 1st)
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: hobbit on September 30, 2005, 09:02:49
What about dipping the box through the filler if there is enough oil in it to see whether its thick and gooey or thin and slightly reddish if you are lucky, or a quick loosen off of the drain plug to leak a bit out there?
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on September 30, 2005, 21:02:51
erm , yes I can do that, now that I know where the filler is :)

I was just surprised to see the red auto oil in the main box when I dipped that one...... I was expecting 80/90 oil...... and just wanting to check it was correct
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: Budgie on October 01, 2005, 03:23:11
I think I right in that the LT77 & R380 use the ATF because they have a built-in pump that takes the fluid to the top of the box.
EP80/90 is too thick for the pump to cope with and if this is use in the box then you may get a large repair bill before too long.  :wink:
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: hobbit on October 01, 2005, 09:33:44
Quote from: "robbie"
erm , yes I can do that, now that I know where the filler is :)

I was just surprised to see the red auto oil in the main box when I dipped that one...... I was expecting 80/90 oil...... and just wanting to check it was correct


Me too :lol:

When I got the disco I thought i was going nuts, having always worked with series vehicles, it was a worrying sight, mind mine came out nearly black though.

Was well overdue for a change I reckon
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on October 02, 2005, 22:14:12
Done it.... Auto fluid in the main box and 80/90 in the Transfer box..... and both boxes were full and quite clean oil too, nice :)
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: Budgie on October 02, 2005, 22:23:07
Well done that man.  =D>

Have fun getting the new oil in the filler holes did we?  :wink:
I use a £2.99 Draper Tools syphon pump, it'll just cope with the EP90 and is much easier than having to keep filling a 500ml bottle.  :D
Title: Transfer Box oil filler
Post by: robbie on October 02, 2005, 23:14:27
Thankfuly it was only the rear diff that needed topping up :) but i know what you mean about the filler tube....

i have an air bottle thingy which will probably do, should I ever need to top them up....... This can be filed with whatever fluid and delivered more easily, or at least I think it can!!! i am sure if i am wrong, someone on here will let me know  :roll:

Thanks again for all your help
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