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Title: flat tyre again
Post by: TULL on September 29, 2005, 21:23:55
Is there a compatability problem with my Greenway machos and the rostyle rims i use, as it seem that for some reason i always get flats drivers side front but not on others . Would i be better with newer rims ? any help would be appreciated
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: muddyweb on September 29, 2005, 21:26:38
If you have tubeless rims and tubeless tyres, (or tube type rims and tube type tyres) then no.  

Are you running tubeless or tubed ?
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: Jim-Willy on September 29, 2005, 21:27:24
Now thats weird, ive just had a slow puncture fixed on my 90's front offside, and its a rostyle.  AAARGH (Not Macho's though).  Do you use inner tubes?
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: drum on September 29, 2005, 21:28:03
I had this with one of the wheels on the Range Rover when I had it. (Allow Wheels, no Rostyles), Never any sign of damage, or any traceable leak, but over time it always went down. My friendly tyre guy, suggest putting some of that emergency tyre foam in. And it never happened again. Might be worth a try.

At the stage I did it, the tyre and wheel had been check several times, I'd be cautious of doing it if there was even the slightest hint of damage.
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: Manicminer on September 29, 2005, 21:35:57
Have you checked the valve?
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: TULL on September 29, 2005, 23:23:22
The machos are tubbeless but have tubes in them, also whenever i take it to the garage he checks and rims seem ok although he does suggest get some new rims and i know he has some 8 spoke steels for sale , oh no ! the £ sighns are flashing before my eyes again.
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: datalas on September 30, 2005, 07:55:14
it depends on the design of the tyres to some extent.

We used to have a set of [brand ommitted] tyres on our series 3, these were a tubeless tyre, however due to using series wheels we had to stick tubes in them.  This is where we experienced problems, the interior wall of the tyre was rather lumpy and would wear through the inner tube when the tyre flexed and rubbed against it.

Having said that, if it is consitantly one wheel you are having touble with this would indicate either the tyre, tube or rim.  Since there are three levels of expense here I would suggest trying a new tube, followed by a replacement rim (even a borrowed umpteen hand one)/
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: EvilEd on September 30, 2005, 09:29:18
Whenever I have had this, it's always been the rims of the valves.

Get the tyre off and lay it flat, now, you need some waching up water that is not too bubbly... run some round the rim and look for bubble... on one of my old BFGs it was only a bubble every few minutes (tyre took about 3 weeks to loose 5lb) you can put water in the valve too to see if that's leaking. if no joy, turn over and check other side.

If it's that, then cleaning the rims and re-laquering them can help (wire brush, then VERY fine sandpaper and then polish and laquer them.

Tyre places also have a rubber compound that they can use when mounting the tyres to seal minor imperfections. it's expensive so they don't like using it, but if pushed, they will :)

If you are using innertubes, Then it's a puncture or the valves...  Not sure if you can get the "Silk" liners like you used to on pushbikes to prevent the innertune rubbing?
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: BRO on September 30, 2005, 11:18:57
Anyone used Punctureseal http://www.punctureseal.com or anything like that - looks like a good solution for a slow leak and protection for blowouts too...

I was planning to get it done for my Motorbike.



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Title: flat tyre again
Post by: Thrasher on September 30, 2005, 11:20:10
I paid a lot of money to have something similar put in mine, then paid an equal amount to have it removed :(

Think "liquid in tyres" :(
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: TULL on September 30, 2005, 23:01:31
thinking back to the last garage visit im sure he mentioned something rubbing on the tube. How many people run on tubeless off-road or do most run with tubes ?. i worry about breaking the seel all the time .
Title: flat tyre again
Post by: Jim-Willy on October 01, 2005, 14:06:34
I got my wheel/tyre back from the tyre man today and asked about potential problems with putting tubes in tubeless tyres and he said it was a problem with some tyres as they have a rib inside that wears through the tube.  Luckily my tyres have a smooth interior so i shouldn't have the problem.  YIPEE :)  :)
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