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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: drmike on October 24, 2005, 20:15:45

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 24, 2005, 20:15:45

I know you can beef up your drag link etc. by sliding over some steel pipe of a suitable diameter. I assume I just measure up the diameter and pop donw and buy the pipe - is there any special quality of steel to buy. Any dumb pitfalls I can tumble into?

TIA

Mike

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Henry Webster on October 24, 2005, 20:33:13

I don't really know what pitfalls there are regarding material etc.  I have heard of people stuffing the inside of the tube with masking tape to stop them rattling and others stuffing them full of grease to help them 'rotate'.

I am beginning to be of the opinion that at the reasonable price of some of the off-the-shelf strengthened bars (Sumo/Danbars/QT) etc. there is hardly any point in doing anything else - and I am ususally the first person to try and save spending money! :lol:

H

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: cstokes on October 24, 2005, 20:42:04

The big problem here is that your local steel stockist probely won't keep the correct diameter of 6mm wall tubing in stock, i found out this when i tried to save some money, they only order in 7 meter lengths and it costs about £180, so unless a few people want them it isn't worth the outlay whan you consider a Danbars is only about £30.

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 24, 2005, 21:09:16

You can get a Dan bar for 30 quid - where from?

As to buying a full length I may be able to get round that as there a number of stockists and fabricators round me and they all seem stunningly frendly and helpful.

Mike

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: cstokes on October 24, 2005, 21:18:31

I recently got a danbars for topple for £30 from simmonites, adnitedly it was at the malvern show.

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 24, 2005, 21:26:08

OK I'll enquire of them and see they can offer.

Mike

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: paul_humphreys on October 24, 2005, 21:40:34

Try here

http://www.mill-services.com/

Paul

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 24, 2005, 21:50:03

I know of them but I had the idea they were pretty expensive and I couldn't find the steering bars on the web site. There's Kensons as well who do bars with ends and all for about a ton I think.

Mike

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Henry Webster on October 24, 2005, 22:59:23

http://www.sumobars.co.uk/

£82 the pair - excellent quality.

H

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 25, 2005, 07:09:49

I hadn't realised that they had a web site - £82 become £108 after delivery and VAT though.

Still they are one of the 'original and best' aren't they.

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Eeyore on October 25, 2005, 08:38:13

Or try direct from Matt Lee

01302 310468

Scorpion sell 'em, too.

As do Devon 4x4!  :wink:

FWIW I paid £34 for mine.

The Kenson bar is a complete, thicker, steering bar as opposed to just a reinforcing tube, hence the price increase.

When you re-assemble the steering bars, use a smidge of copper-slip on the thread on the ball joint - it makes than a cinch to replace in the field.

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: V8MoneyPit on October 25, 2005, 17:23:19

I fitted the Kenson bars to the 110. The £100 goes to £115 after carriage is added, but they are supplied as a pair and complete with the 3 track rod ends.

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: davidlandy on October 25, 2005, 17:31:18

I got mine from Nene Valley tyres - none of the slide over stuff, but the Solid ones complete with Track rod ends all for around £80.

Well tuff.....can jack the motor up on them (if I wanted to) :wink:

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: landyman Ash on October 26, 2005, 14:45:21

So where is best then and cheapest?

I run a steering guard from Devon but we all know they are never enough!!

All your quotes range from £30 to £130!!!!

For a challenge truck, what do people recoemmend then?#

Im putting two new axles on this weekend so now is a good time to fit one i'd say!!!

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: seph234 on October 26, 2005, 18:16:37

im looking at replacing mine with a sumo bar as when i went to undo my trackrod end it sheared off and the end seems like its siezed solid in the track rod so i thought what a good time to change :lol:  if you look at the website why is the track rod a different length from a disco to a defender dont they use the same axle?

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 26, 2005, 19:13:44

the track rod is a different length for a disco & defender as the disco uses 2 rh thread TRE's & an adjuster where as the defender uses a RH & LH thread TRE,

Got sumo bars on the racer & pulled a kirbstone out the ground with the TR on a compsafari & didnt mark it much,although Just in case i carry a spare drop arm & drag link & TR tubes & ends

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: seph234 on October 26, 2005, 20:23:31

so can i use a defender trackrod with left and right hand threads on my disco

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 26, 2005, 21:14:40

yes but only if you move the steering damper to the defender position

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: seph234 on October 26, 2005, 21:39:44

aaahh yes i already have a wizard kit on :D

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 26, 2005, 22:00:15

the defender bars falls in the hole like a pinky in an a..... better not say that  :lol:

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: seph234 on October 26, 2005, 22:12:14

yes keep it clean but i get what your saying :lol:

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: drmike on October 27, 2005, 08:19:16

I thought the axles on a Disco and Defender were quite different mine are I'm sure - although I dare say over the years they may have rationalised this.

Mike

Title: Heavy duty steering bars
Post by: rollazuki on October 28, 2005, 15:18:32

Buy a QT bar, job done, youll never look back
Solid, not a tube, cant go wrong