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Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bob696 on October 31, 2005, 16:47:50
http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-13455865,00.html
Cutting someone up in front of a copper appears to be OK as they dont even bat an eyelid (unless it happens to them) but this ....... and it cost the tax payer £20K as well
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: TimM on October 31, 2005, 17:34:30
I seem to remember seeing another one of those (or at least similar).

It's a complete waste of money - OUR MONEY!

Is this what we pay our taxes for?

 :evil:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on October 31, 2005, 17:40:14
No-one seems to question the fact that the 'worker' was wearing jeans whilst working in floodwater, and not waterproofs.  Perhaps he was hoping to sue the council for inadequate protective clothing/training.
Title: law
Post by: colintandy on October 31, 2005, 17:41:50
well thats sounds about right then british courts and people say the yanks goto far in courts its a shame that the police in our country make such cock-up of things whilst the rest of us pay for that service through our taxes but like all good british things gone down the toilet and as usual jo public has to take that crap and live with it !i know im not happy with our police force and im sure there are plenty others alike with worse stories of pure incompetence by the police,
Title: puddles
Post by: Jas278 on October 31, 2005, 19:12:34
The worlds gone mad!
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bishops Finger on October 31, 2005, 21:48:58
He deserved the fine...and more he had the nerve to splash someone working at the side of the road :D
Title: splash
Post by: way2deep on October 31, 2005, 22:28:18
too right.. bet he sat in his car laughing his head off,till the law stopped him......
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bishops Finger on October 31, 2005, 22:51:27
um it was the working bit that threw me :D (lol)
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: suzota on October 31, 2005, 22:55:54
hmmmm. its a difficult one.
while i agree its a waste of time and money to prosecute, i do feel he should have been stopped and reprimanded for his actions.
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: ian_s on October 31, 2005, 23:03:13
it didnt really need to go to court
if every speeding fine went to court, just imaging the bill
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: dracula on November 01, 2005, 02:27:56
IIRC It is an offence under Road Traffic Act.."DRIVING WITHOUT DUE CARE AND CONSIDERATION"
Would it still have been a waste of time/effort/ money if "victim" had mum with child in pram? :wink:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bob696 on November 01, 2005, 06:17:05
Quote
"DRIVING WITHOUT DUE CARE AND CONSIDERATION"


we should all remember that next time we are out on a green lane and find a puddle.  Make sure PC Plod isnt around or he make sure he has something better to do t the time (like eating his lunch or cleaning his toe nails) :wink:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: muddyweb on November 01, 2005, 12:08:32
Just to play devil's advocate for a moment....  this is nothing new.  A mate of mine got a fine for the same thing about 15 years ago.  The world hasn't "suddenly" gone mad.

The fact that it had to go to court is a product of our justice system, the man had the right to appeal against the accusation.

The cost of the court case should never be a factor in whether a case is pursued...   what kind of justice system would that be !?!

In this event, he was found to be guilty.  Yes, it cost money, but that's life.
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: more x 4 on November 01, 2005, 14:10:03
can i ask a question about common sense then? why was this guy stood next to a puddle,i teach my kids better than that. if the guy had swerved to aviod the puddle and hit an oncoming car who would have been right then?
this just seems like another pointless attack on the motorist :roll:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: muddyweb on November 01, 2005, 14:19:51
Quote from: "more x 4"
why was this guy stood next to a puddle,i teach my kids better than that.

In terms of the specific offence, that isn't relevant.  I agree, standing near puddles on a road is stupid... but, much as we'd like it to be, it isn't down to the individual to punish that stupidity.

Quote from: "more x 4"

 if the guy had swerved to aviod the puddle and hit an oncoming car who would have been right then?

The motorist would have been in the wrong again.   In this case, he was supposed to slow down or stop... that's what the highway code says, and has done for many years.

Quote from: "more x 4"
this just seems like another pointless attack on the motorist :roll:

Like it or not... that's the law... has been for ages.
Title: Re: puddles
Post by: Rich_P on November 01, 2005, 16:02:35
Quote from: "jas278"
The worlds gone mad!

I was going to say that it already had gone mad, many years ago....  :lol:
Title: Re: puddles
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 01, 2005, 16:18:12
Quote from: "Steel"
Quote from: "jas278"
The worlds gone mad!

I was going to say that it already had gone mad, many years ago....  :lol:


That's not very politically correct is it??? :twisted:

Nowadays the phrase is 'Psychologically Disadvantaged'
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:
Title: Re: puddles
Post by: Priglet on November 01, 2005, 16:50:36
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"

Nowadays the phrase is 'Psychologically Disadvantaged'
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:


I prefer mentally challenged :P

I'm sure it's not PC to use the word disadvantaged :twisted:
Title: Re: puddles
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 01, 2005, 17:07:20
Quote from: "Priglet"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"

Nowadays the phrase is 'Psychologically Disadvantaged'
 :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:


I prefer mentally challenged :P

I'm sure it's not PC to use the word disadvantaged :twisted:


You're probably correct :lol: , but is the word 'challenge' too intimidating for certain members of society???
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: more x 4 on November 02, 2005, 03:38:41
well here's another law for you,and i think it makes about as much sense

You can only shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight.


just because something is "the law" dosent make it right,and interpritation of that law sometimes leaves a lot to be desired


(btw no disrespect to the welsh is intended in this post)
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: more x 4 on November 02, 2005, 03:42:22
and i just liked this one :wink:
It is illegal to be a drunk in possession of a cow.
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: littlepow on November 02, 2005, 11:27:15
Quote from: "more x 4"
can i ask a question about common sense then? why was this guy stood next to a puddle,i teach my kids better than that.


Accordingly he was cleaning out a blocked drainage ditch, which had caused the road to flood. Although the lack of warning signs and barriers was never questioned! Not a very safe working practise, getting wet was the least of the incidents that he could ahve suffered.
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 02, 2005, 12:37:20
Quote from: "more x 4"

You can only shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight.


That's at Chester, I think??
I used to warn one of my (Cardiff born) collegues not to go there after dusk :lol:

I believe there's a similar one about Lancastrians in York
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Cherry Bomb on November 02, 2005, 13:36:56
Hereford. :wink:

Still common practice I think.  In fact I have a feeling it is now a competetive sport! :lol:

Could be wrong though. :shock:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 02, 2005, 13:57:10
Quote from: "Cherry Bomb"
Hereford. :wink:

Hereford is walled???
Or is it simply the medieval boundaries it applies to?
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Cherry Bomb on November 04, 2005, 22:45:17
Not sure on that one.  i don't know if Hereford ever had town walls, but it may have at one time.

I seem to remember something about being on one side of the river or summut, but I might be dreaming that!

Antway, just goes to show some laws should never be revoked! :lol:
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: Range Rover Blues on November 05, 2005, 13:40:41
The guy was doing 10-15mph, even the police admitted that, so it's hardly inconsiderate.  I'd be taking the council to court for lack of manitainance to the road in the first place, after all it's not like he swerved into the puddle or went tear ar**ing through it at full chat, this is ridiculous.  Once agin it seems you're more lke;ly to get prosecuted if you're a law-abiding, tax paying citizen with a job than a work shy flag-pole painter's apprentice driving a stolen car.
Title: british road law gone mad?
Post by: littlepow on November 05, 2005, 19:36:44
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "more x 4"

You can only shoot a Welsh person with a bow and arrow inside the city walls and after midnight.


That's at Chester, I think??
I used to warn one of my (Cardiff born) collegues not to go there after dusk :lol:

I believe there's a similar one about Lancastrians in York



No it's Scots.


But on a lighter note, a pregnant women can request the use of a policeman’s helmet for an impromptu toilet break!
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