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Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 18:16:42
The famous remains of Donald Campbells boat (K7) BlueBird may yet be returning to Coniston Water, the lake that claimed his life, as daughter, Gina, is in dispute with the National Lottery over the restoration (or not, as the case may be)


http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30100-13455632,00.html

The Story is apparantly featured on 'Inside Out' on BBC1 @ 19:30 tonight


I haven't looked at them recently, but these sites may offer some backgroundl
http://www.acrossthelake.com/
http://www.bluebirdproject.com/
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: gords on October 31, 2005, 18:26:39
Umm, tricky one that :-k  I can appreciate the argument of both sides. I'd probably fall on the side of "leave it as it is". :?
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Rich_P on October 31, 2005, 18:30:34
Same here, gords.  I personally would want it to be left as it is, infact, I find it rather interesting, looking at the wreckages of past time vehicles which have a strong part in history.

Reminds me of Babs.  See here, bottom of the list on the page. (http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ensgwo/carsv2.htm)
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 31, 2005, 18:41:23
was reading about it in the local paper just now,

would prefer it to  be restored or returned BUT not put on ebay
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 18:44:22
Quote from: "Steel"


Reminds me of Babs.  See here, bottom of the list on the page. (http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ensgwo/carsv2.htm)


Without even looking at the link I know that is about Parry-Thomas's aero-engined racer that he died in (decapitated by a drive-chain) on Pendine Sands
It caught fire during the incident & the crew had to apparantly break his legs to retrieve the body
It ws buried in the sands & in the early 1990s??, it was dug up (from within the military ranges*) & restored

It featured in a Channel 4(?) series a couple of years ago called 'Speed Machines' (still occasionallyrepeated on Discovery channel


* Pendine Ranges have a fantastic rocket railway that can apparantly do 800mph+, it's used for missile air-flow testing  
The Thust SSC team used it to test & record supersonic airflow over models for computer modelling
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Xtremeteam on October 31, 2005, 19:09:53
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Steel"


Reminds me of Babs.  See here, bottom of the list on the page. (http://www.bath.ac.uk/~ensgwo/carsv2.htm)


Without even looking at the link I know that is about Parry-Thomas's aero-engined racer that he died in (decapitated by a drive-chain) on Pendine Sands
It caught fire during the incident & the crew had to apparantly break his legs to retrieve the body
It ws buried in the sands & in the early 1990s??, it was dug up (from within the military ranges*) & restored

It featured in a Channel 4(?) series a couple of years ago called 'Speed Machines' (still occasionallyrepeated on Discovery channel


* Pendine Ranges have a fantastic rocket railway that can apparantly do 800mph+, it's used for missile air-flow testing  
The Thust SSC team used it to test & record supersonic airflow over models for computer modelling


Rich: have you ever looked at the website about ejection seats?? i posted a link in the website section a while ago as there was the story about the rocket sled in the states with the guy riding shotgun,

Hope you take this the correct way but your knowledge of things like this amazes me & im constantly intruiged
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Rich_P on October 31, 2005, 19:16:08
Quote from: "RedlineMike"

Rich: have....

Er, letting you know, I'm also called Richard.  But I know you were talking to Bush Tucker Man.  :D
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 19:31:29
Quote from: "RedlineMike"

Rich: have you ever looked at the website about ejection seats?? i posted a link in the website section a while ago as there was the story about the rocket sled in the states with the guy riding shotgun,
And th amazing thing is, he was a volunteer!!!, not ordered to do it


Quote from: "Redline Mike"
Hope you take this the correct way but your knowledge of things like this amazes me & im constantly intruiged
:oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:  :oops:
Oh, stop it!! :oops:  :wink:

I just diligentlyresearch & more importantly.... remember

(plus I've got my 'Snug' full of books)
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Stormin on October 31, 2005, 20:06:10
I'm not surprised the so called NATIONAL LOTTERY :(biglaugh): refused funds.  Bluebird is not so called art or some minority group. (Trying hard to be polite here).  She's part of ENGLISH history.
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 20:27:03
Quote from: "Stormin"
I'm not surprised the so called NATIONAL LOTTERY :(biglaugh): refused funds.  Bluebird is not so called art or some minority group. (Trying hard to be polite here).  She's part of ENGLISH history.


If a 'minority group' built one out of bricks, or lolly-pop sticks, it'd get untold millions.

Regarding my Pendine Sands information'[/i]
I've been checking up down in my 'snug' & the track is;
1.6km long
Level to within 0.6mm over that length :shock:
Capable of carrying a sled at up to Mach 3.2

The Thrust teams model only did 0-850mph :roll: , but in 0.8seconds :shock:  :shock:
That's roughly 50G


Steel, Babs wasn't the only Land Speed Record contender to crash on the sands
The same source downstairs that gave up the rocket-sled information also revealed another car & driver
Barry Bowles & 'The Blonde Bombshell'

A quick net search has revealed this fascinating site

http://www.langport.freeserve.co.uk/page3.htm ('Bombshell' is on there)
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: woody on October 31, 2005, 20:45:48
i went to Holker Hall (Grange over Sands) last week and saw the replicas of the car and boat used in the film adout Campbells life.
a fantastic wall display charting his record breaking attempts
the lottery hands overe money for less worthy causes
they should allow the family to decide
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: suzota on October 31, 2005, 21:15:11
personally i think it should be fully restored to its former glory, but with a complete record of the restoration.
i can under stand the family wanting to remember it in its former glory, than a wreck showing how a great man died.
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 21:43:34
Quote from: "suzota"

i can under stand the family wanting to remember it in its former glory, than a wreck showing how a great man died.


It's a pity you're so far away, as there's a pair of tributes to Donald Campbell, plus his grave in Coniston
'Easter 2005 In The Lake District. 2' (http://community.webshots.com/album/308675187AvgEYp)

Mentioning restorations, the Lancaster at East Kirby is a marvellous memorial;
WebShots album (http://community.webshots.com/album/149735865yZdsET)
Web-Site (http://www.lincsaviation.co.uk/home.cfm)
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: suzota on October 31, 2005, 22:22:59
the thing is.
i was there on that fatefull day.
i was nine and we were there on our holls.
didn't really mean anything to me when it happend.
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on October 31, 2005, 22:37:39
Quote from: "suzota"
the thing is.
i was there on that fatefull day.
i was nine and we were there on our holls.
didn't really mean anything to me when it happend.


Blimey :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
I bet it did to your parents, if they were there as well????!!
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: suzota on October 31, 2005, 22:50:48
yeah they were shocked.
but i was too young to understand.
Title: Bother Over BlueBird
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 02, 2005, 12:40:47
On Jeremy Vine NOW
BBC Radio 2
Gina wants to restore it, HLF wants to display it as found.




Jeremy Vines site (http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/shows/vine/)
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