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Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 08, 2005, 10:28:09
During a chat with one of the patients a few days ago, we got talking about the old tractors he used to rebuild, I only got talking as he had a copy of a Ferguson club magazine on his bed

For some reason the natter got around to fuel.
He tells me quite catagorically that TVO is of equal quality to standard road (duty-paid) diesel.
He still uses TVO in an old Ferguson on his family farm.

Simply out of curiosity, is this true??

(he's been discharged, so I can't ask for verification & I rarely see a mate who used to rebuild Fordson E27N's & Field-Marshalls)
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: barmiebrumie on November 08, 2005, 10:55:45
Dumb question but what is TVO :oops: ,



John.
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: jalopy joe on November 08, 2005, 13:02:52
TVO needs a spark doesn`t it??  Start on petrol and switch to TVO when engine is warm, or have I got that wrong?
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: ChrisW on November 08, 2005, 13:08:23
I thought it was more of a petrol / parrafin mix? Seem to remember Dad having to get pink paraffin when we had our old Fergie

This site seems to say more petrol/paraffin than diesel...
http://www.fofh.co.uk/tech/tvo.htm
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: woody on November 08, 2005, 13:45:24
SVO= staight veg oil
TVO=tractor vaporising oil ?????

all diesels built before 1947 were duel fuel  :shock:
only since the the abundance of cheap petrolium fuel ( :lol: ) did we start changing to fossel fuels to run heavy oil (compression ) engines
are we suckers or what

now with electronic controlled fuel systems and engine management we may be to far away to use SVO in modern engines
biofuel = is a mix of SVO and is thinned with mineral oils to make it usable in engines without any modification
SVO needs to be warmed (thinned)to use it in a diesel engine
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: woody on November 08, 2005, 13:51:41
here is some info
http://tractorbits.com/infofiles/TVO.asp
though it seems to be somwhere between petrol and heating oil
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Manicminer on November 08, 2005, 20:39:48
My father used to have a Ferguson tractor at one time. It used to run on Tractor Vaporizing Oil. It was the first thing that I ever drove (as soon as my legs could reach the peddles).

You had to start it up on petrol and when it was warmed up enough, you turned the tap over to TVO. You had to remember to turn it over to petrol a few minutes before switching off or you had trouble the next time you came to start it :roll:

It became hard to source TVO some time at the end of the 70's. My father found out that it would run just as good on Kerosene.
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: DIL on November 08, 2005, 20:53:38
We use 28sec heating oil in our old tractors as TVO, some people mix a small amount of petrol with it.

Never heard of any one use it in a diesel engine, as it needs to be vapourised and have a spark.
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Manicminer on November 08, 2005, 21:00:31
Quote from: "DIL"


Never heard of any one use it in a diesel engine, as it needs to be vapourised and have a spark.


You definitely need a spark or four
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: JD LWB on November 08, 2005, 21:39:59
We use a mix of heating oil and petrol in the TVO fergies we've got.
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 08, 2005, 22:32:14
Quote from: "DIL"
We use 28sec heating oil in our old tractors as TVO,


That's the blend that he mentioned, coupled with a measured amount of diesel & petrol.

I had to ask, as I was sure my old friend with the E27N's & Field-Marshalls used to carry on about the electrics on the E27s

Now, Field-Marshalls :D, there's a nice bit of kit
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: DIL on November 08, 2005, 22:43:39
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"

Now, Field-Marshalls :D, there's a nice bit of kit


Great aren't they!  :D  We have a series 2. Need a good man on the starting handle  :wink:
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 08, 2005, 22:54:27
Quote from: "DIL"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"

Now, Field-Marshalls :D, there's a nice bit of kit


Great aren't they!  :D  We have a series 2. Need a good man on the starting handle  :wink:


What!!

Doesn't the Series 2 have the fun way of starting??
Ignition paper, cartridge & hammer??
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: DIL on November 08, 2005, 23:12:47
It has it but dont like using it, it puts a lot of force on the engine in an instant.

Used them for a while when she was tight after new piston and rings, but normally just get a bit of exercise on the handle :D
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: LandRoger on November 08, 2005, 23:19:53
I used to drive a Field-Marshall when i was 14-15 we had two for ploughing the wet fields, my father was the only person allowed to start them  -didnt trust my 4brothers or myself to do it ! i well remember going to bed with that dratted Pom-Pom noise in my head, we also used them to pull up trees!
Title: Tractor Vapouriosing Oil
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 09, 2005, 19:56:50
Quote from: "Land/roger"

 i well remember going to bed with that dratted Pom-Pom noise in my head, we also used them to pull up trees!


And watching them bounce about  :lol:

Plenty of 'grunt' for stump-pulling
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