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Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: rokcrawlin on November 12, 2005, 23:05:17
Has any one come across a school that needs an ASBO put on it,
We have a school across the road from us that seems to think it ok to use the roads around it as an extension to their car park, they also use peoples driveways for the same purpose, whilst people are out at work,the school also thinks it is ok to be used at all hours 7 days a week.
This morning it was a 4 am start with car door slamming and screeching of tyres.
during the week you cannot get a bus or emergency vehicle down the roads surrounding it or have visitors at your property due to the "car park extension" terriffic thing is the local councillor is on the board of govenors and has helped them get approval for an extension with the intentions of having another 650 on top of the 1,700 kids there already so it is not an option to complain through him and i am getting fed up with not being able to park my vehicle on our driveway, in fact being able to park within 1/4 of a mile of our property, the police dont want to know either so........................when i get home between the hours of 9am and 15,30 and find one of their pupils cars on the drive I am going to put it in the garage without opening the door as i feel it only fair to share my other facilities with the pupil and also show how much of an IMPACT it is having on me. does any one think I will attract some attention through this action and get something done about a school that thinks it has a right to harrass its neighbours in as many ways as possible and at anytime as it sees fit.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: beast5680 on November 12, 2005, 23:18:50
if they park on your drive block em in or clamp them.
re the not being able to get emergency vehicles in due to the parking problem , i have a friend in the fire service who had a solution to that They had the same problem with a road in the town he works in cars parked everywhere overspilling from the station, they got one of the residents to dial 999 and call the fire service out to his house when the fire engine couldnt get thru all hell broke loose :twisted:  evry time a car parked there the police towed them for a month no trouble since.
If a fire engine cant access your house and your on fire you have a problem
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Dangermouse on November 12, 2005, 23:51:28
So set fire too your house  :shock:  no prob  :wink:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on November 12, 2005, 23:53:18
Put a small sign up - Private property, Unauthorised vehicles will be clamped , Release Fee £200 - and then clamp anyone parking in your drive.  Not as satisfying as working the car over with a baseball bat, but legal and financiaaly rewarding!
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Colin 009 on November 12, 2005, 23:56:28
Next time they park in your drive jack it up, take the wheels off and leave it on bricks.


You could get the neighbours to all club together and employ one of these clamping firms to police the street.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Bulli on November 13, 2005, 08:35:44
or set up your own clamping company!
You need to try and go above your councillor...go to the local council meeting and get as many of your neighbours to go with you. this kind of thing tends to get under your skin and you need to do something before you find yourself swinging a baseball bat at a spotty 17year old.
The thing that always winds me up is that the police seemingly dont care....until the second you break the law. If you put someones windows through i bet they are there in a flash :evil:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: stratie on November 13, 2005, 08:39:27
This blocked my driveway! so i moved it down the road  :evil:
Did i pay up for it.....No.
Do i care.......No.
Would i do it again......... yes :D
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: drum on November 13, 2005, 09:06:41
Quote from: "stratie"
This blocked my driveway! so i moved it down the road  :evil:
Did i pay up for it.....No.
Do i care.......No.
Would i do it again......... yes :D


Was there any complaint at all?? No mention of paying for damages ??
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Bob696 on November 13, 2005, 09:09:00
You could also contact OFSTED and report the school as failing the local community.

Write to the planning department and keep an eye on planning applications. If they are putting in an extra 650 kids they will need new buildings that require space that could be better used for carparks

Mkae sure you have a dropped access and that it is marked with a white line

Fit a locable sucurity post to your drive

Ring up the headmaster everytime it happens. Take up his time, he is too busy to be harressed. Write him a letter everytime it happens and demand a responce and ask him to give you solutions (schools can ban pupils from bringing cars to school)

Move house
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: simdeb on November 13, 2005, 10:58:18
i thought it was an offence to block some ones drive and as for parking on your drive i would block them in and say the motor has broken or something, or say next time its on my drive i claim it possesion is 9/10th of the law, adding you parked it on my PRIVATE LAND

DEBBIE
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: simdeb on November 13, 2005, 11:03:32
FORGOT TO SAY MAKE A FORMAL COMPLAINT TO GOVERNING BODY, SEVERAL TIMES, GET IN TOUCH WITH LOCAL PAPERS, SCHOOLS DON'T LIKE NEG PUBLICITY.

WILL ASK AT MY SCHOOL FOR ADVICE FOR YOU,

DEBBIE
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: the loon on November 13, 2005, 11:05:08
had a similar problem with people blocking my parents drive a few years ago.
We ordered one of those big 1 ton sacks of building sand and had it delivered when someone had parked on the drive.
totaly blocked the drive with there car on it then we got local community police offerer involved who we knew anyway
That was just one car though that would do this on regular basis but he never did it again.
Have you got local press involved yet or local fire saftey officer?
If emergency vechicles cant access street also get in touch with local police etc.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: keithdixon on November 13, 2005, 11:09:20
I had the same problem when i lived in Bromley, kent.  I lived near the train station and commuters arriving late for their trains used to grab the first space and run for the train leaving their cars blocking every drive going.

So one day i had one car on the drive, one on the road and was out with my third.  

There was an additional space on the drive for the third.

When i returned at about 4pm some D%%k had parked directly outside my drive stopping me from getting my car on the drive, also stopping me getting my other car off the drive.

I telephoned the police who said they could put a notice on the car giving them 24 hrs to move it (great)

So i printed off a notice explaining what an idiot he was parking there.
AND GLUED IT DIRECTLY INFRONT OF THE DRIVERS SEAT

Approx 7pm (late december) a young spotty lad turned up donned with suit ( and no coat ) arrived to see the notice.

Unable to drive (as he could not see) he proceeded to pick off bits of the notice with his key whilst i had a coffee in the garage overlooking him.

He had the balls to come up and ask if he could have something to get it off, which i replied i was too busy.

It took him 1 hr to shift enough of the notice to be able to drive.  he he he

The following week i saw his car frantically looking for a place and was astonished when he did the same again.

So this time a change of tactics, One transit backed up infront of his car (1 inch from the bumper) and a vauxhall vetra backed up to the rear of the car (1 inch from the bumper) (and 2 notices on his window which included the face that i was going out and would be back the following evening (but within 24 hrs))

when i returned at the time i promised he was standing there with PC Plod.

He came up and said sorry for his parking behaviour and promised never to do it again.

PC Plod then said how he found it funny but mentioned that i could have been prosecuted for the notices to his car.  OOPS
He went on to say that unless i admit to doing the notices there was nothing he could do.

I said thankyou and bid him a good night.

No problems since
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: hobbit on November 13, 2005, 15:18:15
Instead of a clamping firm, see if you can get a car removal firm, with the 7.5 tonners and 4 wheel lifting gear
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Damonski on November 13, 2005, 16:18:29
Quote from: "hobbit"
Instead of a clamping firm, see if you can get a car removal firm, with the 7.5 tonners and 4 wheel lifting gear


If a fire engine cant get down the road how the heck is one of those  :D

Nah I just recommend we all unite and get all our Landies down there Sunday night. Come Monday morning everyone finds the streets full of us and they will have to park elsewhere  :lol:

Im sure you could arrange a mud-club winter bbq  :wink:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: smog on November 13, 2005, 16:20:59
Last motor that blocked my drive i dragged it out the way, no hassles no fuss.

People tend not to park outside my house though.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Priglet on November 13, 2005, 17:27:05
A friend of my Mum's had similar problem's. They overcame it by using a jam and water mix to stick notes to the side windows. Apparently the logic was they may get prosecuted for using glue as it may permanently damage the vehicle whereas jam wouldn't and the side windows so that it was possible to move the vehicles away.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: the loon on November 13, 2005, 17:49:21
friend of my brothers owns a paint ball sight near plymouth theres big notices on the main gate "NO PARKING 24 HOUR ACCESS REQUIRED" and another sigh "VECHICLES BLOCKING ACCESS WILL BE REMOVED"(but no notices to advertise whats actualy there when theres no one about for obvious reasons)The sight is in quite remote area so they get a couple of cars blocking the gate every year - its mostly ramblers who park up for the day and go off on there little missions.
The sight owner is friendly with the farmer who used to own the woods the sight is on and he's got a JCB teleporter forklift he uses on the farm...
think your one step ahead of me here  :wink:

If cars are found there blocking entrance the sight owner has no problems with asking the farmer to lift them with the forklift and put them up the road a few hundred yards.

He had one numpty who tried to get the police involved as claimed that it had written off his car so the sight owner showed the police the signs etc and pointed out that the car would have to have been on his private land as the gates a fair bit back off the road
Police said that he may just want to tow them in future but they pointed out to car owner fact that he was on private land etc and that could be sued for trespass and potential loss of income had the gate been left blocked  

 :wink:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: laser_jock99 on November 13, 2005, 18:22:43
Quote from: "Dangermouse"
So set fire too your house  :shock:  no prob  :wink:


Set fire to the offending car and call the fire brigade. If the fire engines can't make it in time due to parked cars so much the better!!!!!
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Sider on November 13, 2005, 18:35:23
Quote from: "laser_jock99"
Quote from: "Dangermouse"
So set fire too your house  :shock:  no prob  :wink:


Set fire to the offending car and call the fire brigade. If the fire engines can't make it in time due to parked cars so much the better!!!!!


And who said that good ideas were lost forever :D:D:D:D
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: rokcrawlin on November 13, 2005, 21:01:36
Thanks every body for the ideas an even nicer donation has been made by the neighbours rotty, 16 neighbours are now armed with ..... how should i say ..............a substance worthy of immediate washing of hands ....for purposes of anti theft this will be attached to door handles every time a vehicle is deposited in a driveway and also when it obstructs access to properties and as such will be a reward for crappy parking ....if you all will excuse the pun
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Damonski on November 13, 2005, 21:06:08
Quote from: "rokcrawlin"
Thanks every body for the ideas an even nicer donation has been made by the neighbours rotty, 16 neighbours are now armed with ..... how should i say ..............a substance worthy of immediate washing of hands ....for purposes of anti theft this will be attached to door handles every time a vehicle is deposited in a driveway and also when it obstructs access to properties and as such will be a reward for crappy parking ....if you all will excuse the pun



LOL That is the best yet! I LOVE IT  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: DISCO-CHRIS on November 13, 2005, 21:19:27
TOP IDEA!!
about time for a annual xmas meeting at yours then!!
either that or drive over it! ahh SATISFACTION!
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: rokcrawlin on November 13, 2005, 21:32:33
I dont mind a chrimbo barbie as i usually run a green lane excursion for my friends in the new year and have breakfast at the stroke of midnight on the beach at holme subject to weather and the eggs not getting blown past the frying pan  :lol:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: sulley on November 13, 2005, 21:36:04
If trumpton (fire brigade) can't can't through to an address due to bloackages, they are legally entitled to "ram" the vehicles out of their path!!!

Oh and THEY WON'T BE PAYING FOR THE DAMAGE!!!!!

Apparently if you tell your insurance co. that you blocked Trumpton on a shout they go "Yeah, what you expect then" 8)
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: stratie on November 14, 2005, 06:03:28
Quote from: "drum"
Quote from: "stratie"
This blocked my driveway! so i moved it down the road  :evil:
Did i pay up for it.....No.
Do i care.......No.
Would i do it again......... yes :D


Was there any complaint at all?? No mention of paying for damages ??
3 ton of iveco van straight up his rear end, i said sorry, i allso told him it was a daft place to park his car.
you live and learn  :lol:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: TimM on November 14, 2005, 09:40:02
Quote from: "rokcrawlin"
a reward for crappy parking


A friend of mine did something similar once, he stuck some fish (can't remember which) in the air intake for the heater, not quickly noticed, but once heated the smell would have been there for ages.

I agree with the other suggestions of a fire and then a 999 call.  :wink:
Title: Fire Brigade
Post by: sogster on November 14, 2005, 12:58:07
I was always under the impression that the fire brigade can cause as much damage as they like trying to get to a fire!

Some years ago whilst at a hospital, I heard the sirens going and in they came. Cars were parked all over the place, and double parked along the roadways. The fire engine just smashed its way through to get to its fire point. The other two engines did excactly the same when they arrived.

Im  not sure if this was becuase it was on private property or not , but there were at least 50 motorists with extremely damaged cars there that day.

Sogster.
Title: Re: Fire Brigade
Post by: laser_jock99 on November 14, 2005, 13:06:23
Quote from: "sogster"
I was always under the impression that the fire brigade can cause as much damage as they like trying to get to a fire!

Some years ago whilst at a hospital, I heard the sirens going and in they came. Cars were parked all over the place, and double parked along the roadways. The fire engine just smashed its way through to get to its fire point. The other two engines did excactly the same when they arrived.

Im  not sure if this was becuase it was on private property or not , but there were at least 50 motorists with extremely damaged cars there that day.

Sogster.


So- by just torching the one car on your driveway you could teach all the owners of badly parked cars in the area a much needed lesson!! And there wouldn't be a thing they could do about it...
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Bob696 on November 14, 2005, 17:01:00
torch the car and claim for a new drive off their insurance  :twisted:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: rokcrawlin on November 14, 2005, 20:07:28
An update for you all 57 vehicles have had the new anti theft err .....cream put on them, fortunately all the drivers noticed it before driving off and the residents responsible have told them not to put the cars on or near their property or there will be more forms of protest, we have got the whole neighbourhood motivated now and intend to cause as much legalised hassle as we can until the council, police and education authority start sorting the problem out.
Title: Re: Fire Brigade
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 15, 2005, 11:50:47
Quote from: "sogster"
I was always under the impression that the fire brigade can cause as much damage as they like trying to get to a fire!
Cars were parked all over the place, and double parked along the roadways. The fire engine just smashed its way through to get to its fire point. The other two engines did excactly the same when they arrived.
Sogster.


The  threat to 'life & limb' will surely be sufficient justification for the 'instant removal of vehicles.

I'll try & find out off a crew, as we tend to get perhaps 7-8 shouts a week at the Hospital (toasters mainly :roll:, as the staff buy their own for rest-rooms. NHS Dualits don't cause problems due to their design)

If cars are parked outside A&E, the Ambulance crews/service are not liable for damages if they strike a car whilst urgently manoeuvring.

Undoubtedly if  we had a 'MAJAX situation' we'd be moving as many of them as we could ourselves before all the 'Blue Light Brigade' turned up
(thankfully, I've only had to do a MAJAX practice with the chemical suits, de-contamination tent & shower
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: diesel_boy on November 15, 2005, 21:31:22
Quote from: "stratie"
This blocked my driveway! so i moved it down the road  :evil:
Did i pay up for it.....No.
Do i care.......No.
Would i do it again......... yes :D


HO YES THATS THE WAY i did that to some1 who parked ther car in front and 1 behind of my truck beening a volvo fh12 420hp i poped it into 3rd and off i went pushin the car into the middle of the road  and left it there
also if any one parked in front of my drive and i wanted in or out of it  the thing that was blocking the driveout of the way    
but  the law state's that if you cant get off ur drive  u can move it but not to get into ur drive    shame  [!Expletive Deleted!] um
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Lostboy on November 17, 2005, 09:38:49
We have a major problem with double parking in Edinburgh, recently a fire crew had problems getting to an incident due to it. Fortunately they managed to rescue the mother and child, but it was a 'just in the nick of time' sort of thing.

As it turns out, the fire brigade don't have the right to move vehicles, and double parking and obstructing the streets is apparently legal  :shock:  (or so we are told) according to both the police and the council - and it is going to take the council at least a year to put local legislation in place to stop it  :shock:

My local counciller seemed to get a little upset when I told him I felt that our  local and national government was failing in it's duty to protect the public - this is not a new problem, it's been happening for years - it's going to take someone to die in a fire before it gets sorted  :evil:

Most of our politicians are pathetic, weak, self centred egotists, prefering to try and fix soft problems and issues that won't affect their chances of getting re-elected the next time around rather than standing up and taking the courage to fix some of the real issues this country faces.

Rant over, sorry folk but I got stopped and searched by the police on my way to work this morning for I suspect nothing more than the fact I was wearing a hoodie - well it was 0 degrees outside this morning.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Priglet on November 17, 2005, 10:11:22
Quote from: "Lostboy"

 and double parking and obstructing the streets is apparently legal  :shock:  (or so we are told) according to both the police and the council


It's been a couple of years since I worked in highways but as far as I can remember technically it is an offence to park at the side of the road as you are obstructing the highway, it's permitted because it's considered to be de minimus. Anything that's not de minimus is obstruction, such as double parking, and the police have the power of arrest to remove the obstruction.
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: diesel_boy on November 19, 2005, 22:21:38
HA scotland diffrent set of rules up there u c    :wink:
Title: anti-social neighbours
Post by: Xtremeteam on November 19, 2005, 22:26:45
pete:wouldnt worry to much aprt from them wasting yourtime,once is ok but after i was getting stoped twice a week i got a little upset & kinda told the police where to go n shove it,changed cars & havent had a bit of respect for the police since,

if they want me,they gotta catch me first
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