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Title: snow and tyres
Post by: driftwood on November 15, 2005, 22:39:46
not had the disco when its snowed, but which are best for normal drivin in snow on roads a/t's or m/t's? and should the pressures be kept normal or slightly underinflated? :-k

if it does snow good and propper, the last thing i want is to get stuck especialy with a 4x4 :oops:
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Dave on November 15, 2005, 22:44:11
I read a test in one of the mags they said A/T's are best. But snow is not the problem it the ice not a lot grips on that.
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on November 15, 2005, 22:48:08
I was out and about in the snow last year on BFG A/Ts and had no problems at all - I even had to go and pick up parts from the local L/R dealer, as they weren't delivering because of the road conditions......
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: jjsaul on November 15, 2005, 23:11:25
i was wondering that....

for the rangie i have a choice of greenway machos and pirelli scorpion road tyres

which are best on thin snow / ice???
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: laser_jock99 on November 15, 2005, 23:26:41
Quote from: "jjsaul"

which are best on thin snow / ice???


Snow studs. My General Grabber MT's have the holes in ready- but I can't find anywhere selling the screw in studs. Still- you can guarantee if I did mangage to procure some we would have no winter to speak of!
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bulli on November 15, 2005, 23:29:21
A/t's are better but m/t's are still ok . Not sure what the scorpion road tyres are like but machos are a bit iffy on the road at the best of times. For bad ice, chains are best by a long way but in deep snow they dig in too much and so often bog you down...Deep snow ...drop your pressures to spread the weight and you will be ok...but remember slow, 4x4 does not equal safe in snow- just safer.
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: driftwood on November 15, 2005, 23:29:45
Quote from: "laser_jock99"


 we would have no winter to speak of!


sound about right :roll:
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bishops Finger on November 15, 2005, 23:30:19
AT's for snow ..just look at the tread coverage compared with MT's.....
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: jjsaul on November 15, 2005, 23:46:12
im not too bothered about deeper snow as we never get it round here

i was thinking about when we get about an inch or so and it gets compacted ....

(as to your point about machos...yer i found that out earlier on wet tarmac....  :roll: )
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bulli on November 15, 2005, 23:49:00
tightly clenched buttocks spring to mind...grizzly's are similar and my mate has annaconda's...they are scary!
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: jjsaul on November 15, 2005, 23:52:50
Quote from: "Bulli"
tightly clenched buttocks spring to mind...grizzly's are similar and my mate has annaconda's...they are scary!


the object causing me to brake sharply was a smart car.....doubt i would have felt a thing in the rangie :twisted:
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bob696 on November 16, 2005, 06:14:28
Quote
Snow studs.


Illigal in the UK. Hence you will have difficulty buying them.
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: rollazuki on November 16, 2005, 08:45:58
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Snow studs. My General Grabber MT's have the holes in ready- but I can't find anywhere selling the screw in studs. Still- you can guarantee if I did mangage to procure some we would have no winter to speak of!


Ive got some! :D
They dont screw in, they look like an upside down mushroom(ie, wider at the base) and are pushed down into the hole. They have a tungsten carbide rode set into the middle of em that keeps em nice and sharp.

They are a complete [!Expletive Deleted!] to fit without a proper stud gun(force a 1/4 drive ratchet extension into the hole to stretch it, then push in the stud with an appropriate sized bit of pipe/tube, all lubricated with water or similar)

They are also bloody expensive(try about 35p per stud.) Dont forget youll need between 30 and 60 per tyre, 4 tyres wow :shock:

They work well on Ice tho. As for legality, Ive been stopped by police, and passed an mot with them fitted.
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: TimM on November 16, 2005, 09:24:23
Quote from: "rollazuki"
As for legality, Ive been stopped by police


I can picture the scene - "There illegal sonny, but as you've got them and we haven't, can you give us a tow please."

 :lol:
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 16, 2005, 09:52:48
Quote from: "laser_jock99"
Quote from: "jjsaul"

which are best on thin snow / ice???


Snow studs.

My General Grabber MT's
 


Grabber M/Ts. Wonderful tyres :D

Snow studs do indeed work, just watch the World Rally Championship when they're on a snowy stage.
Thin tyres (to create more ground pressure) & studs. 90-100mph+ on sheet ice :shock:  :shock:  :shock:
 
Off-camber, up-hill, down-dale & round-corners sheet ice at that  :D
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bulli on November 16, 2005, 11:09:11
Also , full FIA spec roll cage, medical helicopter on hand and more talent than i can even imagine!
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on November 16, 2005, 11:19:00
Quote from: "Bulli"
Also , full FIA spec roll cage, medical helicopter on hand and more talent than i can even imagine!


I know :roll: , I was simply pointing out the differance that studs make :wink:


Sadly the cages & medical help isn't the 'be all & end all' as Peugoet found out at the Rally GB with poor Michael Parks.
Don't think any details of the incident have been released yet?, but it msut have been one hell of an impact.
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: ian_s on November 16, 2005, 11:22:30
from what i heard about it it was a very high speed impact directly into the passenger door with the car moving sideways.
Its amazing how strong those cars are, but the doors are the weakest point
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Xtremeteam on November 16, 2005, 19:34:48
Quote from: "laser_jock99"
Quote from: "jjsaul"

which are best on thin snow / ice???


Snow studs. My General Grabber MT's have the holes in ready- but I can't find anywhere selling the screw in studs. Still- you can guarantee if I did mangage to procure some we would have no winter to speak of!


na na nana na ive got a set of mich XZL's with the studs fitted 7 know of another set of 5 forsale (Collection only)
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Xtremeteam on November 16, 2005, 19:37:43
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
Quote from: "Bulli"
Also , full FIA spec roll cage, medical helicopter on hand and more talent than i can even imagine!


I know :roll: , I was simply pointing out the differance that studs make :wink:


Sadly the cages & medical help isn't the 'be all & end all' as Peugoet found out at the Rally GB with poor Michael Parks.
Don't think any details of the incident have been released yet?, but it msut have been one hell of an impact.

what i do know being relayed from someone on the scene (medical side) that the seat was pushed on to the top of the gearbox tunnel & the car was also bent around the tree,
Title: snow and tyres
Post by: Bulli on November 16, 2005, 23:07:01
No matter what you do motorsport is inherently dangerous. That is the attraction of it....who has ever heard of the world tiddlywinks champion? No-one , everyone has heard of Rossi (if you havent hang your head in shame) and Mansell.
Danger is a big part of the thrill of being alive, it is what makes us what we are.
How much for the tyres and any piccies?
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