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Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: RedDisco on December 13, 2005, 22:55:15
I'm going to do a body lift on the Disco, I was going to get some 2" spacers made up, but my question is would aluminium spacers cause the chassis/body rust quicker? (I was thinking along the lines of how the Defender doors rotted where the two different metals came together - I know there's a name for this reaction, but can't think of it at the moment)

Would I be better making steel spacers?
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: Bulli on December 13, 2005, 22:56:50
I shouldnt worry, there is a degree of reaction but shouldnt be a problem. Certainly wont fall apart in the first week!
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: Colin 009 on December 13, 2005, 22:57:19
Reddisco wrote :
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I know there's a name for this reaction, but can't think of it at the moment)


Land-Rover-itis  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on December 13, 2005, 22:57:46
It's an electrolytic reaction.  I think the spacers are usually ally - but how about nylon? (not tights !) - no reaction, no rust.
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: petergalileo on December 13, 2005, 22:58:00
Its called Galvanic corrosion.
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: prowler on December 14, 2005, 09:46:25
I use pollished Stainless allen bolts on most of my motorcycle engine casings, but you must use White grease or the bolts will seize in after a short while.
Using ally spacers for body lifts is OK, just give them a coat of Ha@@erite, definately lighter than using steel ones
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: Tyke on December 14, 2005, 10:25:31
The corrosion is a result of electrolytic reactions between dissimilar metals. To prevent this you must break the electical path between the two materials therefore insulating washers or gaskets should be used. The dissimilar materials must be chosen to be as close as possible in the electrochemical series to aviod a galvanic reaction.

Also consider the material that the fastners are made from. Stainless bolts are one of the worst for causing corrosion of aluminium. As matey has found out on his bikes. Vincent motorcycles had this sussed as far back as the 1940's when they used 'stabright' mudguards on their famous 1000cc v-twin, the 'Black Shadow' machines. These were stainless steel and fully insulated from the frame by a complex arrangement of insulating washers and sleeves.

In real terms, the best most of can do is lather the bolts in grease and make sure there is an insulating washer in place at both sides of the fastner. Good tip is to make any holes in aluminium oversize so they don't contact the bolt shaft holding the two materials together. Aviod any electrical paths between the steel and aluminium and things should be reasonably ok.

PS- electrolytic reaction needs an electrolyte . . . so do all you can to keep moisture out of the joint  :wink:
Title: Steel / Aluminium reaction.
Post by: Tyke on December 14, 2005, 10:43:38
If anyone is interested in understanding more about galvanic corrosion try looking here http://www.corrosion-doctors.org/Definitions/galvanic-corrosion.htm  :wink:
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