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Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 15, 2006, 16:04:49
Theres been a meaty looking lorry stuck at a local beach for a couple of weeks now and while my son and I were sitting on the beach in the discovery one of the locals came over and he said it came to pull a couple of cars out of the sand and in the process got stuck itself.

Anyway, about 20 minutes later a few people with a tractor, a toyota pickup and a 200TDi turned up to try and pull it out, with no luck.

I took some pictures with my phone, sorry about the quality.

The lorry looks like it is missing its front off side wheel but it is there its just buried under mud and sand !

Apparently they are going to try again tomorrow with 2 tractors but I dont think they are going to have any luck, they need to lift the thing up really to get the wheel out.

Thought you would be interested.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: j99mud on January 15, 2006, 16:08:23
looks like they need a big crane and an even bigger tractor! looks like good fun to watch though
 :D
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Jas278 on January 15, 2006, 16:45:11
HMMMMM that looks well stuck, its a wonder its not been vandalised being left out there. they certainly have a job on there hands it looks a heavy beast.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: gtomo2 on January 15, 2006, 16:49:40
if it had been left on a beach in a 50 miles radies of liverpool it would of been nicked by now :lol:  :lol:





Oh and before the backlash starts not all people from liverpool are thevies just about 90% of them :lol:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: strapping young lad on January 15, 2006, 17:38:09
blooming tractor isnt big enough

thats a mid-range ford, they need a big Fendt to pull the poor sod out

biig tyres and biig HP!

or

a caterpillar

or a scouser! ;)
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: leo on January 15, 2006, 17:49:51
dig it out by hand  :lol:

i would if it was my landie  wouldnt want to leave it  :shock:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 15, 2006, 18:23:56
Apparently this is the 4th attempt at moving it.  The front has actually sunk down to the chassis.  The rear is on pretty hard sand but they obviously tried wheel spinning it a lot as the rear wheels are at least 2 feet down  in the pit left by the tyres.

It was interesting to watch, I dont know anything about tractors but it looked big enough to me but the big chain they were using, and this was a really meaty chain just snapped, the lorry didnt budge.  They then doubled the chain over and tried again but the tractor was just slipping and sliding all over the show.

My boy stood watching transfixed by it all.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 15, 2006, 19:00:27
Am I imagining things, or is that a Pegaso 3046?????

First one I ever see out of Spain!!
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 15, 2006, 20:19:45
Quote from: "Sider"
Am I imagining things, or is that a Pegaso 3046?????

First one I ever see out of Spain!!


My thoughts were one of the SIMCA's
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Xtremeteam on January 15, 2006, 21:52:28
all you need to remove that from that hole is, a V8 110 & a KERR rope  :wink:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Jim-Willy on January 15, 2006, 21:59:25
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
My thoughts were one of the SIMCA's


I agree.  a poor mans Unimog.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: rokcrawlin on January 15, 2006, 21:59:34
its a marmon army truck all they need is three landies with good winches and snatch blocks to get that out the landies would need to be ground anchored down and all pulling at the same speed
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Spacemud on January 15, 2006, 22:00:48
How about 8 or 10 mudclub vehicles, would have thought if anyone can then mudclubbers should be able to get it unstuck!
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: hobbit on January 15, 2006, 23:13:12
NIce track vehicle would do better with that mire (better traction), or see if the raf want to do a practice recovery with a chinook :wink:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 15, 2006, 23:27:53
Quote from: "hobbit"
NIce track vehicle would do better with that mire (better traction),


Not always :D  :roll:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: hobbit on January 16, 2006, 09:40:18
True but they do have a bigger and lighter footprint, with some support they can pull better
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on January 16, 2006, 09:54:47
Quote from: "hobbit"
True but they do have a bigger and lighter footprint, with some support they can pull better


Yes, it seems as though the ground pressure will be a factor in this one, get too close & you'll be joining it.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: hobbit on January 16, 2006, 13:03:06
Get a chinook in then :wink:  :lol:

Or one of the old mil recovery wagons with 200feet of winch cable, to sit on the hard ground and or ground anchor to hold them still
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 16, 2006, 14:31:48
the area the lorry is, it is a mixture of sand and mud which is almost saturated with seawater.  As the front tyre is now at least 2 and a half feet below the surface of the sand it is also about a foot below the high tide water level.  If it wasnt for the chassis spreading the weight the lorry would be well under by now.

I think the chinook is a good idea, and a lot more exciting to watch too !
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 16:58:30
Quote from: "petergalileo"
the area the lorry is, it is a mixture of sand and mud which is almost saturated with seawater.  As the front tyre is now at least 2 and a half feet below the surface of the sand it is also about a foot below the high tide water level.  If it wasnt for the chassis spreading the weight the lorry would be well under by now.

I think the chinook is a good idea, and a lot more exciting to watch too !


But you still haven't put an end to the mistery. What truck is it???

(http://www.geocities.com/perumilitar1/expo/images/pegaso-4x4_jpeg.jpg)

(http://hspegaso.en.eresmas.com/dipu721701.JPG)
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 16, 2006, 17:01:56
Looks like the top one but the suspension was higher.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 17:02:54
I know it looks like it, but those heathens are trying to tell me it isn't :D

Go on, have a quick run down the beach and help end the suspense :D
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 16, 2006, 17:09:13
I will go tomorrow and take the digital camera, much better picture than the mobile.  That is assuming it hasn't been recovered of course.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 17:14:00
I still maintain that BTM and Willy are wrong, of course, until there's photographic evidence to vindicate them :D
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: littlepow on January 16, 2006, 17:28:49
Quote from: "hobbit"
Get a chinook in then :wink:  :lol:


That would be fun, the down wash will destroy the canvas back and sand blast everything within a 100 yards!

But the sparks from the sand hitting the rotar blades would provide a little firework display to watch!  :lol:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Rocketman on January 16, 2006, 18:29:08
Let me and Jalopy Joe get up there, we will put a few 6" shells under it. That'l shift it and you will get your fireworks display as well
 :D  :D
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: PUX on January 16, 2006, 18:35:57
wot u need guys is a army foden recovery truck would have no probs getting the out then  :D  :D  or u could get the challenger rocovery tank now that would do it  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :wink:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Manicminer on January 16, 2006, 20:42:27
It's not 'proper' stuck. You can still see the bonnet. :wink:

If I had some of the equipment from work, I would have it out in less than 30 mins.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: thumbs on January 16, 2006, 21:07:45
put a proper tractor on it, or use a big wrecker with a sprak on harder ground to winch it out, would never have left it their this long!
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: isle of man on January 16, 2006, 21:18:20
its a "sumb mh600bh" french army truck.

peter henry
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 16, 2006, 21:26:16
That looks more like it, I am going to go up there again tomorrow and have a look, how do I tell what it is anyway ? are there any morkings I should be looking for ?
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 22:02:50
If it is got sort of a flying horse as the logo, then it is a Pegaso.

And god forgive me, but comparing the three pics, I stand by my statement: I spent too much time working with them lorries. Loads of exercises while in the Army, and it is one of the few pieces of mobile gear designed and made in Spain, so I proudly claim:

It is a Spaniard, guv

(http://forums.mud-club.com/files/11142_432.jpg)

(http://forums.mud-club.com/files/image_280__212.jpg)

(http://www.geocities.com/perumilitar1/expo/images/pegaso-4x4_jpeg.jpg)
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Jim-Willy on January 16, 2006, 22:04:21
Quote from: "Sider"
If it is got sort of a flying horse as the logo, then it is a Pegaso.

And god forgive me, but comparing the three pics, I stand by my statement:
]


Problen been the Simca looks like that aswell :wink:
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 22:06:40
Quote from: "jim-willy"
Quote from: "Sider"
If it is got sort of a flying horse as the logo, then it is a Pegaso.

And god forgive me, but comparing the three pics, I stand by my statement:
]


Problen been the Simca looks like that aswell :wink:


Heathen, all of you northeners :D
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Jim-Willy on January 16, 2006, 22:08:11
See what i mean, this is a SUMB or Simca.


(http://members.aol.com/pdon16/images/Sumb205.jpg)
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 16, 2006, 22:12:04
Just look at the air filter and the exhaust mounted behind the cab, which the simca hasn't, plus the size of the vehicle. Does that stuck mammoth look like a wee 5.3 tonner to you??
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: petergalileo on January 17, 2006, 13:28:57
I dont beleve it ! Its gone so I guess we will never have a definitive answer.

Its was moved by two tractors and a lot of digging going by the mess it made of the beach !

I reckon it was a pegasso, it looked nothing like the simca.
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: EvilEd on January 17, 2006, 14:14:52
Door handles have indents.... Roof is shallow... out of the "Three Piccies" above, 2 and 3 are more similar, deffo not 2 and 1 (Siders Post)

Front Mud guard is the same shape too.... but the fuel tank looks round on the "Stuck one" and Oblong on the 3rd pic....

Wing Mirrors and door shape wrong for Pic 1 too... fit with Pic 3 though (Although Pic three is missing the mirror itself

Indicator is on the side, not on the lump too....

Out of those, I would say it's the third pic that's right....
Title: Stuck rescue lorry
Post by: Sider on January 17, 2006, 17:32:54
I consider myself vindicated. :D
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