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Vehicle & Technical => Discovery => Topic started by: Sheddy on January 25, 2006, 20:45:46

Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Sheddy on January 25, 2006, 20:45:46
Got the Disco today :)  Its a '01 V8.  

The chassis and rest of it seems solid but the rear floor has rusted through.  Obviously, its got to be replaced so what do I need to disconnect before welding it?

Is it just the battery and run a strap to earth or are there other things that need disconnecting first?

Bit of a swine really, 'cos I wanted to spend the money on a lift kit for it but now I'm gonna have to buy meself a mig!  can't let someone else do it :)

While I'm asking, the rev counter doesn't work .... anyone know the common cause or should I just go hunting with the multimeter?

Ta!
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: TONY78 on January 25, 2006, 20:55:47
ALL I DID WAS UNDO THE BATT, STRAIGHT FORWARD JOB REALLY, WHILST THE FLOORS OUT GIVE UNDERNEATH A GOOD CLEAN :D
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: MuddyMachine on January 25, 2006, 21:04:29
Pm me you Email and ill send you a file I was given on how to replace it.
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: paul_humphreys on January 25, 2006, 22:54:52
If its just the floor glue the new one in.

Paul
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Matt_H on January 25, 2006, 23:02:35
hello,

do you a deal - I'll weld your floor for the cost of lunch if yuo buy my suspension lift kit!  

I'll teach you to weld at the same time if interested.

Battrery off isn't essential unless you have complex ecus that could potentially be affected...

The problem with the boot floor is that it is right over the diesel (or petrol) tank.  it is possible to weld aruond it but personally I would always drop the tank out of the way first - it doesnt take long (unless you have a stupid tow hitch with seized bolts like i did!

I think paddocks sell a replacement floor - cut out the old and weld in the new :-)  with everything prepped up it shouldn't take more than an hour.

Matthew
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Free Drink Spotter on January 25, 2006, 23:09:06
An 01 as in 2001?

Crikey - rusted through already!

Please tell me I'm wrong.

JB
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Sheddy on January 25, 2006, 23:18:52
FDS .... sorry, that should have been '91 .... fat fingers and stadard keyboard!

Matt H ... do you mean that you have a suspension kit for sale of that I have to buy you one?
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Matt_H on January 26, 2006, 00:31:56
Quote from: "Sheddy"

Matt H ... do you mean that you have a suspension kit for sale of that I have to buy you one?


I've got a suspension kit for sale.. it was fitted to my disco about 5000 miles ago, so not seen much use!

Always willing to help out with welding :)
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: denviks on January 26, 2006, 08:20:08
i have done the rear floor on my 93 disco. not a hard job to be honest ( compared to rear crossmember  :roll: ). as matt says mate it is worth removing the diesel/ petrol tank first. saves making a boo and damaging the tank some how. far to easy to melt a hole in it. iafter i had the old floor out it did only take about an hour to fit the new one.
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: nickW on January 26, 2006, 13:22:29
matt pm sent about the suspension
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: chris9119 on January 26, 2006, 18:08:25
isn't the floor pop rivetted in :?:

Did my 93 the other month.

Job completed in 4-hours and a 100 pop rivets.

Chris

Ooooops, sorry, it is spot welded in, just remembered  :oops:
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Sheddy on January 26, 2006, 18:35:02
Had a proper look over the disco today.  I think its got the wrong alternator on it, the rev counter doesnt work and theres a spare wire behind the alternator.  I think this may be the pick-up wire for the rev counter.  There doesn't seem to be any sign of a pick-up near the coil.

The rear floor is rotten as a pear and so is the piece of flat bar under it.  I pushed a screwdriver throught the floor and the bar!  This could get a little more involved!

Under the motor, the outriggers and chassis are in good shape, the sills are good, both inner and outer.    I havn't looked at the footwells properly, couldn't be bothered to have the carpets out yet and can't see too much of the footwells from the outside.  I'll get the rear floor done first before I start looking for more jobs to do!

All in all, it seems to be quite a sound vehicle.

I'm off now to order some toys for it :)
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: kevhenson on January 26, 2006, 19:18:18
Quote from: "chris9119"
isn't the floor pop rivetted in :?:

Did my 93 the other month.

Job completed in 4-hours and a 100 pop rivets.

Chris


is the rivet gun ok for the mot or does it have to be welded? really like to think id get away with rivets seeing as i cant weld!!

cheers
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Matt_H on January 26, 2006, 21:03:13
it's better to weld it cus it will be stronger, but so long as you are I think 30cm from a seat belt point or brake mount point you should be ok.. I think the boot floor is too close to the rear seat belt mounts to be allowed, but may be wrong - I'd always weld something like that.

If you can do all the prep work you are probably only looking at an hours time of a decent welder.

Matthew
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: denviks on January 26, 2006, 22:50:45
i riveted mine in mate and it went through the mot 2 days after i did it. not mentioned at all  :wink:  :D
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: FAT BOY on January 27, 2006, 09:21:43
my mates disco has its rear floor pop rivetted and that passed its mot yesterday. :D
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: hobbit on January 27, 2006, 15:43:34
It should pass mot, the floor is not part of the structual strength of the vehicle, like the floor in the back of a series landy, the body sits on the chassis

I suppose you could fit a wooden one in if you feel like it :wink:
Title: Welding rear floor
Post by: Skywalker on January 27, 2006, 17:47:00
Thre's quite a few earlier threads about Disco rear floors in the forum,

This one (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=4921&highlight=rear+floor) seems pretty comprehensive, if you have a look at Tim's post(Muddyweb) - 3rd from the bottom on page 1
Or Click Here (http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/muddyweb/gallery/Discovery_Floor)  there's a link to his photo's of the job  :shock:

Don't think pop rivets would have been up to the job in this case  :roll:

Dave
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