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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: drutt on February 08, 2006, 11:43:24
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As most of you will know, the esteemed Neffalump made his TV debut (at least his TV debut that doesn't involve him wearing a dress)
http://www.101fc.net/files/vids/bbc-io-20060207-neil.wmv
Will allow you to view him going head to head against a hippy.
Thanks to Martyn for hosting it too :)
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Thanks for that - missed it the other night :)
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Yes thanks for uploading that. He really got her on the question of why pick on Landrover? There are other cars with similar engines, they just look smaller and more efficient.
Well done, it was quite a mixed cut, although I feel they were a bit biased towards the Greeny.
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Neil,
Absolutely suberb, that was one in the eye for the anti's.
=D> =D> =D>
Jim
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File is also here - just in case there are any download/bandwidth issues.
http://www.horness.com/mudclub/bbc-io-20060207-neil.wmv
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8) V8
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Its all a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap.. :evil: :evil: :evil: :evil:
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Just watched it. Well done... Neil :D
"Its all a bunch of tree hugging hippy crap" totally agree with you speedfreak!
Matt
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she did seem like a nice girl though :roll:
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I think that she did say that the ones used for 'off roading ' are ok.
..and DEL PICKUP - is that a real name???
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V8 RR offroad = V8 RR onroad in real terms. The damage is the same - why is one "ok" ?
The argument is flawed from the start.
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And you have 2 V8's and a V6
Not 3 V8's
And, most importantly, she call Piglet a Range Rover.
The amount of time they spend hanging around LR dealerships, you think they'd know the all the range by now
:lol:
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I quote :
'Indeed my children are going to inherit the earth, they'll also inherit a Range Rover'
All I'll get it a lousy Mitsi :(
I know Datalas makes this point frequently but I also own a 4x4 that has compareable/worse fuel consumption, weighs almost as much as the Rangie, has a somewhat worse saftey record and yet Never seen anyone protesting outside an Audi Garage?
Just to name a few worse than the Rangie : Audi A8 W12 6.2l. WV Pheaton, ANY larger BMW, Most Jags.
Oh I notice how according to her cars dont produce anyhting other than CO and CO2 :) No Nitorgen oxides or particulates, god deisel must be wonderful stuff :)
Shoulda taken her offroad :)
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So why can't the greenies go and campaign outside a concrete plant as they produce huge amounts of Co2 and what eles produces lots of harmfull emmisions? Building Air-conditioning units.
I had this talk with a friend last nite whilst on the way to the pub and she asked why does me and my mate drive a Landy and not something more environmentally friendly. and so..
My main point is this!
To make and produce 1 avaerage vehicle even before it turns a wheel, The production will cause a few tons or Co2 to be produced. So I then asked what cars her family has owned in the same life time as my landy? She has Saxo now so that is X amount of pollution caused,
Then there is the Volvo so another amount added.
Then there is the 3 Vauxhalls owned.
Soo that is 5 times X amount of pollution. and that was only accounting for all the cars she can remeber in an approx 15 years. Already there has been four times amount or pollution caused in comparrison to the one amount caused to make mine. Now who is the environmentally unfrindly one? and we don't know how many cars her parents have owned before she was born.
It really annoys to find some blinkerd bigoted person who has all their facts wrong, trying to make out that they are right and i'm the Heathen who should burn in the fires of hades.
Grrrrrrr! :x :twisted: :(bigangry): :evil:
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So why can't the greenies go and campaign outside a concrete plant as they produce huge amounts of Co2 and what eles produces lots of harmfull emmisions? :
Cows farting.
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So why can't the greenies go and campaign outside a concrete plant as they produce huge amounts of Co2 and what eles produces lots of harmfull emmisions? :
Cows farting.
Polititicians ?
The basic premise you can uyse to shut up pretty much any greenpeace activist is their own argument, i.e. "carbon footprint".
Every single person on the planet produces carbon dioxide in the lifestyle choices that they make, be this the vehicle they drive, the food they eat, the way they heat their house or even the amount of curry they buy.
You will get told that if you drive a V8, or even any form of 4x4 then you are killing the planet, and, within a very limited sense they are telling the truth. But there are considerations that are not being taken into account. Every vehicle produces emmissions, and even the greenest of the green electric cars require the power from somewhere. Since we don't have a sustainable renewable energy production system in this country producing the energy required to drive an electric vehicle will produce CO2, I wish it didn't, but it does.
Whilst this is a valid point, it perhaps isn't the most gross act of hypocracy and blind-eye-turning that it may appear, or at least there are others. Assuming that the activist isn't a nut-only vegan, take Lamb, or Bacon. Since the drive for ever cheaper food has seen an increase in the amount of importing, and the corresponding death toll for british farming you have to question the sanity of buying none local produce. For instance, you could buy your Lamb from new zealand, your Bacon from Denmark, your Bananas from South Africa, Tomatoes from spain. Granted these are shipped in bulk, but add each journey together and the simple fact remains that getting the produce to the supermarket produces more CO2 than driving there to pick it up.
"You have three range rovers, you could have smaller more efficient cars", indeed, and I could, as has been suggested replace them every three years to ensure I have the most fuel effecient versions. The trouble is, destroying the old ones requires energy, producing the new ones requires energy, and that level of pollution caused by the manufacture and recycling of the old one is questionably smaller than using the one I already own, and is already there. Piglet in this example is what? 10 years old, Kanga around 6, even Owl is past it's shelf life officially... So, yes, he *could* buy smaller more efficient cars, but if he followed the published advice rather than buying three cars and using xxx amount of fuel, he'd have had to buy 7 small cars and the assiciated amount of fuel, is that *really* more efficient ?
Besides, how much petrol does the mega thirsty V8 in piglet actually use whilst it's sat stationary on the drive ?
Short answer, buy locally produced food, install double glazing and insulation, turn things off, use energy efficient lamps, get off your backside and walk more often and you'll make a far bigger impact on CO2 production than buy buying a milk float.