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Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 06, 2006, 17:59:01
My first post got deleted !!

THis one got Locked


http://www.l200.org.uk/community/index.php?topic=5138.msg42667#msg42667

And why ??

I asked if there was a Navara Pick up Club.  :lol:  A SIN i know !

I even had a PM from Chris the Site Founder, asking me not to post up with regards to Nissan :lol:

Not a very friendly site.
Steer Clear at all cost.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 06, 2006, 18:00:52
And the funny thing is, when using Google, it takes me to the L200 club as everyone wants a Navara :lol:  PMSL !!!!
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: ChrisW on March 06, 2006, 18:09:33
From the Off Topic forum -
Quote
Due to the amount of off topic posts we have no option but to remove them to speed up the search facility on the forum
please try to stay on topic


These people didn't used to own Discovery's did they?  :evil:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 06, 2006, 18:24:03
I will be flying the Mud Club Sticker on the back of my Navara with pride (when it arrives)  :)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Ja1983 on March 06, 2006, 18:36:36
mud-club is all you need ;)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: al on March 06, 2006, 18:53:48
Keep mud-clubbing mate, and s#d em!
   
      AL
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Jake on March 06, 2006, 19:42:38
Mud Club is the best
The others just pale into insignificance.
 :D
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Damonski on March 06, 2006, 19:46:25
Quote from: "Jake"
Mud Club is the best
The others just pale into insignificance.
 :D


Its millions times better than some of the others  :wink:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Edge on March 06, 2006, 19:56:09
Just noticed in the news box (top right of forum) they charge you to join aswell.
I 2nd what Al said "S#D em"
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Eeyore on March 06, 2006, 21:12:55
Umm, speaking as a mod on a forum or two, I'd say they've every right to lock a thread they consider irrelevant.

Asking about Nissans on a Mitsi forum is asking for trouble. Single marque organisations of any type can can very protective about their choosen breed. They may well of viewed your post as some form of bating or spam (particularly given the jibe about url ownership).

Does the title of this thread seem very friendly?

As Led Zeppilin said 'Ooooo, and it makes me wonder'  :wink:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 06, 2006, 21:42:53
Led Zeppelin didn't say it.....Robert Plant chucked it in as an ad lib line in their live version of Stairway to Heaven....ditto 'Does anyone remember laughter'
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 06, 2006, 21:51:29
Quote from: "Eeyore"
Umm, speaking as a mod on a forum or two, I'd say they've every right to lock a thread they consider irrelevant.

Asking about Nissans on a Mitsi forum is asking for trouble. Single marque organisations of any type can can very protective about their choosen breed. They may well of viewed your post as some form of bating or spam (particularly given the jibe about url ownership).

Does the title of this thread seem very friendly?

As Led Zeppilin said 'Ooooo, and it makes me wonder'  :wink:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore


What a narrow minded attitude  :evil:

What if that person decides he doesn't like his Nissan after owning it and gets a Mitsi? He certain ain't going back to a club with an attitude like that is he  :evil:  :evil: You never know who your next customer is  :wink:

Moderators shouldn't act like little Gods, they should be couretous and polite at all times. Thankfully here a majority of the moderator are tolerant and couretous  :wink:  8)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Jim-Willy on March 06, 2006, 21:55:16
Quote from: "BrumLee"

What a narrow minded attitude  :evil:


Single make clubs are narrow minded, thats why i ain't in one :wink:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Wanderer on March 06, 2006, 21:56:24
Quote from: "BrumLee"
Quote from: "Eeyore"
Umm, speaking as a mod on a forum or two, I'd say they've every right to lock a thread they consider irrelevant.

Asking about Nissans on a Mitsi forum is asking for trouble. Single marque organisations of any type can can very protective about their choosen breed. They may well of viewed your post as some form of bating or spam (particularly given the jibe about url ownership).

Does the title of this thread seem very friendly?

As Led Zeppilin said 'Ooooo, and it makes me wonder'  :wink:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore


What a narrow minded attitude  :evil:

What if that person decides he doesn't like his Nissan after owning it and gets a Mitsi? He certain ain't going back to a club with an attitude like that is he  :evil:  :evil: You never know who your next customer is  :wink:

Moderators should act like little Gods, they should be couretous and polite at all times. Thankfully here a majority of the moderator are tolerant and couretous  :wink:  8)


Most of the time :lol: ;)

Ed
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Tigger on March 06, 2006, 21:56:50
Quote from: "BrumLee"
What if that person decides he doesn't like his Nissan after owning it and gets a Mitsi? He certain ain't going back to a club with an attitude like that is he  :evil:  :evil: You never know who your next customer is  :wink:


True, but I think what Eeyore is saying is that it's up to them how they run their site... the people who don't like it, won't use it...  consumer choice as you say.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 06, 2006, 22:02:40
Quote from: "Tigger"
True, but I think what Eeyore is saying is that it's up to them how they run their site... the people who don't like it, won't use it...  consumer choice as you say.


And I think the proof of the pudding is mud-club  8)  8)

PS made a typo in my posting  :oops: should have been "shouldn't act like little God's" and not "should"
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on March 06, 2006, 22:16:44
i think there are ways of getting your point across without being rude or abrupt. i would steer well clear of that forum.

mud club forever (yipee) :D
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 06, 2006, 22:25:23
Quote from: "mark.yellow.series.3"
i think there are ways of getting your point across without being rude or abrupt. i would steer well clear of that forum.

mud club forever (yipee) :D


Exactly  :wink: A much nicer approach would have been "It's nice to see you've found our site and we welcome your question as a fellow 4x4 enthusiasts. Although we can't offer any help on your particular vehicle, you could try www.mud-club.com as they're also a friendly bunch and have a section that will answer your query"

That's the answer I'd expect from a friendly club and the type of answer I'd give.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: smog on March 06, 2006, 22:59:44
DAMN!

And i thought this was just a Landrover forum :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 06, 2006, 23:01:49
Quote from: "smog"
DAMN!

And i thought this was just a Landrover forum :lol:


elitist  :lol:  :lol: You know you've left yourself wide open for attack from the Japs  :wink:  :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Cherry Bomb on March 06, 2006, 23:14:28
Umm..................and the Yanks! :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 06, 2006, 23:19:03
Quote from: "Cherry Bomb"
Umm..................and the Yanks! :lol:


Smog's in real trouble now  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: smog on March 07, 2006, 02:09:07
:P I am so scared too :P
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 07, 2006, 06:21:09
It was the abrupt approach from the L200 club, like i say all i wanted to know was if any of their members knew of any Navara Forums ?

And my first thread got deleted without a PM saying why.

Which i thought was very Unfriendly.

My Father has just bought a L200 ( he got a good deal on the old shape as they wanted to shift them for the new model)

and he was looking to join the club, but after the L200 clubs rather childish approach to " Outsider" i told him to steer well clear of their club, and join a friendly one instead :)

To put this into perspective,  i asked the question on a Subaru Impreza Forum, IF a Mitsi Evo owner posted on their site, asking for any Mitsi forums what would they do -
The answer would be firstly to welcome the Mitsi owner, then ask him about his car, and provide any links he wanted, in general to be friendly as the Mitsi owner has the same taste in cars (4wd 300bhp rally cars) so why be nasty ?

as others have said - Sod em, they can keep to their selves :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Eeyore on March 07, 2006, 08:08:55
Quote from: "BrumLee"

What a narrow minded attitude  :evil:


Couldn't agree more, but you can see how it can happen or manifest. Remember the Great LR vs Mitsi Wars that broke out here some time ago? Heated, messy and ultimately unecessary. We've almost had the LR vs Jeep War as well. There's no accounting for loyalty!

Hey ho, but thats the way it goes. And as Tigger said, it's their forum. I can think of ones much, much worse........  :shock:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Thrasher on March 07, 2006, 08:12:48
Oh er.... what do I do ... have my own private war on the drive :-)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Eeyore on March 07, 2006, 08:47:05
Quote from: "Thrasher"
Oh er.... what do I do ... have my own private war on the drive :-)


Wow, George Dubyah normally has to invade somewhere for that to happen!  :lol:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Cherry Bomb on March 07, 2006, 09:33:39
Quote from: "Eeyore"


. We've almost had the LR vs Jeep War as well. :shock:

cheers
 8)
Eeyore


Dam!....I missed that one! :cry:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: suzota on March 07, 2006, 09:36:22
well i run a single make club.

but we have opened our doors to a few non zuk members.

we now have 2 disco's
1 series 2
1 range rover
1 mitzi
and a lada in our little club.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 07, 2006, 10:22:41
Quote from: "suzota"
well i run a single make club.

but we have opened our doors to a few non zuk members.

we now have 2 disco's
1 series 2
1 range rover
1 mitzi
and a lada in our little club.


thats the way to go :)

At the end of the day its all down to Like minded people doing what they like best :)
With Friends. If you have a frindly club and welcome other makes thats great,  

But to honest all i did was Ask if anyone knew of any Navara Forums :lol:

Hardly WW3 baiting material PMSL !!
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: suzota on March 07, 2006, 10:48:53
i find some clubs are very bigoted towards any other make of 4x4.


reminds me of the old landrover hating japs period of the late 80's.

all blown over now of course.

i have never cared what other people drive, they are all 4x4's.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BrumLee on March 07, 2006, 13:26:13
Quote from: "Thrasher"
Oh er.... what do I do ... have my own private war on the drive :-)


Don't go there, Maddy will win every time  :P  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: dew1911 on March 07, 2006, 16:14:37
Charging a tenner to join a forum... How s**t. Better to make membership free and just make stickers and things to pay for...

Basically, if they don't want you then you don't need them.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Brian the Sn@il on March 09, 2006, 19:04:25
Well im here and they can Stick the L200 Club where the sun dont Shine
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Roofus on June 04, 2006, 11:36:00
I 'used' to be on their site! An interesting bunch  :roll: . In short they were in the pursuit of 'Best Club' prizes & the such like & the element of fun had left the site. Censorship was common & more often than not unexplained.

It's the site owners train set & I guess he can do with it what he will. For my part....I said my peice & left. I have no time for unnecessary censorship & someone lording over me! Not to mention cliques! I wanna off road & have fun!

So....I joined Darkside4x4 which was founded by like minded people! During the course of my offroading with them I bumped into more like minded people from here! So both club stickers adorn my truck!  :D

In short......I personally would steer well clear of that site, particularly if you enjoy more than greenlaning & shining your truck! They talk the talk....but don't walk the walk! Perhaps I could sum it up by saying that the owner joined this site & has made two posts....both of which were trying to poach your members!

My opinion anyway............  :whothedaddy:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: strapping young lad on June 04, 2006, 12:00:36
this is what the problem is with most forums, someone had to set it up and normally the person in question has an intense passion for that particular marque/model (otherwise why bother getting a forum up in the first place)

so in essense its their little world and they created it.  you may have posted at a sensitive time when comments about other marques was causing trouble on the l200 forum, there may be a bigger picture but it was an overreaction to boot a post off a first timer though.. a tad harsh without explanation but again it goes back to my first point about their little worlds.. and dare you threaten it!

where mc is different is that it isnt a marque/model club so theoretically the mods couldnt boot you off for being off topic unless it had nothing to do with vehicles at all.


i did like the comment about removing off topics due to search engine issues though.. that one was quite funny (if you charge for a service then i really dont think you can tell the paying pepole what they can and cannot see!)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: PUX on June 04, 2006, 13:44:29
Quote from: "suzota"
well i run a single make club.

but we have opened our doors to a few non zuk members.

we now have 2 disco's
1 series 2
1 range rover
1 mitzi
and a lada in our little club.
GUYS ITS TIME TO INVADE suzota,s club yeee haaaa  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: marjan on June 04, 2006, 16:12:49
I"ve tried several other clubs and forums but they all pale into insignificance against Mud Club. I found a certain one beginning with D arrogant and downright rude if you didn't tow the line.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: strapping young lad on June 04, 2006, 16:24:58
D?

hmm

lemme think

dandelion appreciation society? ;)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: BLUEProfile on June 05, 2006, 11:44:46
I can back Roofus up 100% there.  As one of the guys who helped set up darkside4x4.com I got banned from the l200.org site.  The owner also banned all the mods on Darkside4x4 but back tracked as his site nearly died.

This site seems pretty cool, a great bunch of guys and gals, just like the Diff Lock people too.  Drumclog, you had a Diff Lock event with loads of Mud Club and Darkside4x4 people there, we all had that same goal, which was fun in the mud with a great bunch of like minded people.  Yer the green oval gang take the P out of the Japs and visa versa, but it's all in fun and at the end of the day we all had fun.

I think L200.org is anal, if you want to listen to people ask the normal "what tyres" "which polish" and attend events like Traks, join.  But if you wanna play in the mud and really WALK THE WALK, then get out in the mud and have fun.  I see the forums as a way to meet like minded people and arrange events, a route to meeting people in the real world, not just talking BIG from behind a screen a keyboard.  Not once has any mod on this site stopped me talking about the Darkside, as we all know we can be members of loads of clubs and forums.

Long live freedom of speech and long live days in the mud.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: MK1 on June 05, 2006, 12:19:27
Quote from: "smog"
DAMN!

And i thought this was just a Landrover forum :lol:


That's what a lot of people think!  :wink:
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: MK1 on June 05, 2006, 12:23:07
2097 members at £10 each (£11 paypal)

DAMN and double DAMN!!!
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Lardy on June 05, 2006, 19:43:39
Quote from: "MK1"
2097 members at £10 each (£11 paypal)

DAMN and double DAMN!!!


I shoudnt believe all you read, figures look good and that keeps the manufacturer happy, I used to be a member of l200.org and I was banned, a lame excuse was given but really I believe that it was because we questioned the way the club was run and started up another forum, you are made to believe you are joining a club but all you are doing is subscribing to a website. That was why myself, blueprofile and a couple of others formed Darkside4x4. We all became very fed up with the way l200.org was run and despite trying to discuss it with the owners, they werent interested. Brian the snail is 100% correct in what he says, but it seems to be the same with many single marque forums.
All marque sites like difflock, mudclub and of course darkside4x4 are the way to go, they are about mates with a common hobby and not about kissing up to the manufacturer.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: MK1 on June 05, 2006, 19:57:47
Quote from: "Lardy"
Quote from: "MK1"
2097 members at £10 each (£11 paypal)

DAMN and double DAMN!!!


We all became very fed up with the way l200.org was run and despite trying to discuss it with the owners, they werent interested. Brian the snail is 100% correct in what he says, but it seems to be the same with many single marque forums.
All marque sites like difflock, mudclub and of course darkside4x4 are the way to go, they are about mates with a common hobby and not about kissing up to the manufacturer.


You obviously have never checked out Birty's.  =D> =D> =D>
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Lardy on June 05, 2006, 20:01:52
Quote from: "MK1"

You obviously have never checked out Birty's.  =D> =D> =D>


My ignorence is showing :oops: care to enlighten me :?
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: MK1 on June 05, 2006, 20:05:06
We are not your green/blue oval, but have a look anyway.

http://www.birtydastardsjeepclub.com
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Lardy on June 05, 2006, 20:05:21
Its ok - quick search on google - and now i understand about Birty's 8)
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Bunnie on June 05, 2006, 23:43:12
To me that does seem a bit rude.
What happens to those members that decide to buy a different car but have always gotten on well and know lots of other off the forum.. are they expected to leave and never be spoken of?
sensitivity to other brands is fair enough at the end of the day everyone has there preference. brand loyalty works in every sense of the word.

for instance when i brought my pugcc i was recomended by a previous cc owner to join the pugcc owners club. ive posted on there less than half a doezen time in the 18months ive had the car due to well i wouldnt say lack of friendlyness but the whole forum seems to be purly issues with the cars, i tried posting somethin un car related and i never even got a reply. Although i think many of the regular members including the owner now no longer own a cc instead they either have 350z 's or scoobies... somethin much faster than the pug.

im register on many car forums most of which are local to me. i rarely post normaly just log on to take a look round.

if the l200 club want to act like that then thats thier problem, im sure they will lose membership over it, i couldnt even access your link. and it seems from those replys to this already they have lost a substantial amount of memebers, and they can try poching all they want but at the end of the day people are going to go where they feel welcome.
Title: Not very Friendly at L200 Club have a look at this !!!
Post by: Andy 300tdi on June 06, 2006, 05:59:18
Funny I posted on here that I was paid up memeber of the L200 club and now my password dosen't work
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