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Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 10:56:10
The mother-in-law is wanting a new car.
At the moment she's using our 'spare' (the Fabia)

Even though she's 'knocking on' (still a few years on the lower side of 60) she wants a 'Sports Car' :?  (as she puts it)
I reckon something in the Renault Kangoo genre ( the forthcoming similar Skoda perhaps?) would be better for her?

She's seen
Mazda MX-5
Volvo C-70 (the convertible)
Hyundai Coupe

Father-in-law has plans for a Stag, or MGB instead


My suggestion was (of course) something built in Blackpool :wink:


But absolutely scariest of all, she like those B*W z-cars :(scared):
How do I talk her out of one of those things???? (apart from showing her th price)

I'll have to simply tell her they're only 2-seaters (she reiterates that she needs 4)
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Evilgoat on March 10, 2006, 11:16:49
Audi Cabroilet

Pick up a nice 2.8 V6 for a reasonable price, and its still a reasonably sensible car.

BTW the Kangoo is a van ;)
Title: Re: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Andy the Landy on March 10, 2006, 11:27:03
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"


Father-in-law has plans for a Stag, or MGB instead
Just tell your father-in-law to go out and buy a Stag without consulting mother-in-law and worry about the consequencies after the event :twisted: . Thats what I do - just turn up in a 'newer' car and SWMBO can either like it or lump it :wink:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: clbarclay on March 10, 2006, 11:28:02
If she wants something new and sporty (for sensible money) how about one of these.

http://www.mk-sportscars.fsnet.co.uk/indy.htm

Best bit is that there out of the same mould as the lotus severns, so should appeal to the father-in-law as well.


However acess is not the best :lol:  :lol:  :lol:, so you might end up having to drive it instead :twisted:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 10, 2006, 12:09:19
What about a Saab turbo?
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 12:26:39
Just nippedinto Wakefield & called into Harratts (Volvo dealer), there's  a new convertible coming out next week (S50, or is it S40???), but it looks like a Focus on steroids, but then again that series are Focus based I believe?

Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Audi Cabroilet

Pick up a nice 2.8 V6 for a reasonable price, and its still a reasonably sensible car.

Showed her a RS4 :lol:

Quote from: "Evilgoat"
BTW the Kangoo is a van ;)

We very seriously considered the Kangoo (or whatever the 'MPV' is called) before buying the Fabia.
Sliding doors make sense for shopping/old-folks :lol:

Quote from: "Andy the Landy"
Just tell your father-in-law to go out and buy a Stag without consulting mother-in-law and worry about the consequencies after the event

I like that plan :D
The 'Old Star Garage' at Collingham (near Wetherby) has/had a MGB GT-V8 in stock :D
The owner has a secret passion (http://www.yorkshiretoday.co.uk/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=55&ArticleID=1121866) :lol:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Evilgoat on March 10, 2006, 13:56:17
[qoute='Bushtuckerman']
Quote from: "Evilgoat"
Audi Cabroilet

Pick up a nice 2.8 V6 for a reasonable price, and its still a reasonably sensible car.

Showed her a RS4 :lol:
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Theres an RS4 Cabriolet due out in a few weeks I beleive.

Nice solid reliable car though, most of them stayed based on the same Chassis as the 80/90 and its a proven design. They dont rust and just a nice drive.

Also the only Audi they ever got the steering right on  :evil: Always biased too much towards power assist or towards not having it.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: V8MoneyPit on March 10, 2006, 14:20:05
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
The 'Old Star Garage' at Collingham (near Wetherby) has/had a MGB GT-V8 in stock :D


As long as they don't mind 3000 mile service intervals and rust repairs every few years  :lol: And don't buy a rubber bumper one, they handle like beached whales! They have 'back seats' but don't expect anyone to actually fit in them! Also, the boot is rubbish. You struggle to even get a suitcase in.

I had 2 1800 versions back in the 80's. Both chrome bumper ones. Not bad GT cars, but not at all 'sporting'. The V8 was marginally better, but don't expect it to beat your average modern hatchback away from the lights!

Of the current crop of Coupe's I particularly like the Nissan 350Z. Very nice car, and should be reliable too.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 16:32:23
Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
The 'Old Star Garage' at Collingham (near Wetherby) has/had a MGB GT-V8 in stock :D


The V8 was marginally better, but don't expect it to beat your average modern hatchback away from the lights!

But it's got a V8  & what can you do to V8's.
Anything :D

Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"
Of the current crop of Coupe's I particularly like the Nissan 350Z. Very nice car, and should be reliable too.

Not bad looking, I also like the (still fairly' cutting edge') look of the Celica.

I did also drop a copy of 'Classic American' on the father-in-laws lap :D
Let me see..............
65 - 68 Mustang
68-69 Camaro
69 - 70 Challenger
69 Charger. Oh yes.................... :D
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Ja1983 on March 10, 2006, 16:39:16
do what i did at one point, think what is required of the car (eg, air con, cruise control, leather interior, convertable etc.. ) and just search around your budget price on auto trader, you may well find something you never thought of before!

...its how i found my old astra (mk4 1.8 16v sport - grp 7 insurance) for bargain price! :D
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: dew1911 on March 10, 2006, 17:04:13
Audi Cabrio sounds a nice bet... Solid cars, I have a mate with an S2 Coupe and it's a seriously quick car, especially as it only runs a 2.2.  The 2.8 will be a bottle rocket.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 17:04:35
Quote from: "Ja1983"
do what i did at one point, think what is required of the car


Mother-in-law is an 'image' person (or I think she is)
It's got to look good

At one time she used to tell us; "I wouldn't be seen dead in a Skoda"
But now the joke's on her, as she's realised what a damn fine car it it &drives about in it.

Mine isn't a 'Classless Iconic Vehicle', classless as in, it wouldn't look out of place on the farm, on the high street, at the source of the Amazon, the African Veldt, at the Lord of the Manors country house, etc......

She reckons it's a 'Farm Truck' & I'm not a farmer so why did I buy it? The Discovery was deemed alright as it was (reasonably) posh & 'countryfied', but where was the picnic-hamper??

(Stereo-)Typical woman :roll:

Ladies on here excepted from that last comment
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: TimM on March 10, 2006, 17:08:30
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
The Discovery was deemed alright as it was (reasonably) posh & 'countryfied', but where was the picnic-hamper??


What about a Discovery then? She can add a picnic hamper to her own if she really wants too  :roll:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Tailendcharley on March 10, 2006, 17:12:35
:)  :) See sense...best current car on the market is the Skoda RS and it's relatively cheap...build quality is up to Audi's and it goes like stink...you know it makes sense...

Bye now

 :cry:  :cry: Billy no Mates :wink:  :wink:  :wink:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 17:30:24
Quote from: "Tailendcharley"
:)  :) See sense...best current car on the market is the Skoda RS and it's relatively cheap...build quality is up to Audi's and it goes like stink...you know it makes sense...


It does to me as well, I'd try & replace the Mondeo with one, if SWMBO was up for another lease car yet.

Quote from: "TimM"
What about a Discovery then?

She still likes them & they looked at a Td5, so what happened??
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: V8MoneyPit on March 10, 2006, 17:54:03
Quote from: "Bush Tucker Man"
I did also drop a copy of 'Classic American' on the father-in-laws lap :D
Let me see..............
65 - 68 Mustang
68-69 Camaro
69 - 70 Challenger
69 Charger. Oh yes.................... :D


You could persuade her to go for a modern 'stang or Charger then??  :D Not the same, but not too shabby  :lol:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: dew1911 on March 10, 2006, 18:01:23
The new Mustang is gorgeous... I'd still take an RS4 though.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: tenpolequint on March 10, 2006, 18:12:43
Sports cars are a pain to get in and out of. The RS4 are monster estate that think they are a sports car. All the Skoda range are excellent cars.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Evilgoat on March 10, 2006, 18:21:36
Quote from: "tenpolequint"
Sports cars are a pain to get in and out of. The RS4 are monster estate that think they are a sports car. All the Skoda range are excellent cars.


I took a type A RS4 out a year agom took days to get rid of the grin :D

RS4 is no a Saloon too :)
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on March 10, 2006, 19:03:24
Bought the wife an MX-5 last month - bought one for myself this month!  They're loads of fun, good value for money, reliable and economical.  IMHO they are what the MGB should have evolved into - not the sqashed-up Metro that is the MGF.

An MGB with decent suspension, power steering and electric windows, that isn't rotten/full of filler.  The hoods take seconds to put up/down - Electric ones are great, until they go wrong - it's bad enough when they get stuck open, but when it's halfway....

And you can get turbo kits which give over 200bhp.....
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 10, 2006, 21:13:58
Quote from: "V8MoneyPit"

You could persuade her to go for a modern 'stang or Charger then??  :D Not the same, but not too shabby  :lol:


There's a new shape Mustang at our Hospital & it features in the 'Mischellaneous Automotive' pages of my WebShots
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: littlepow on March 10, 2006, 21:59:04
Mazda RX8, has 4 useable seats, though will need the oil topping up every 2 tanks full of fuel.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: bullfrog on March 11, 2006, 00:00:43
This may get deleted but I will have this for sale :D
PM me for details ! :arrow:  
Just the thing for your MIL :D
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/Ranger300/General%20pics/audi4.jpg)
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 11, 2006, 01:26:39
Citroen Berlingo??

JClarkson rated them...
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Jim-Willy on March 11, 2006, 02:01:46
4.0 Jeep Wrangler.  Loadsa 'image', loadsa engine and very sporty in a hang the @rse out kind of way.  Women love J33p's.  Small enough for Her to park aswell and when She gets really old not having to drop into it will be good :D

(http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/02january/jeep_wrangler.jpg)
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: H on March 11, 2006, 07:29:01
Merc CLK? 4 good seats 2.3 supercharged engine and very reliable.

H
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Grant on March 11, 2006, 09:10:09
3 series conv obviously
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: dew1911 on March 11, 2006, 09:20:47
Quote from: "bullfrog"
This may get deleted but I will have this for sale :D
PM me for details ! :arrow:  
Just the thing for your MIL :D
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/Ranger300/General%20pics/audi4.jpg)


That's a Beauty, Depending on what engine's in it it'll be great...
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bishops Finger on March 11, 2006, 11:28:47
Quote from: "jim-willy"
4.0 Jeep Wrangler.  Loadsa 'image', loadsa engine and very sporty in a hang the @rse out kind of way.  Women love J33p's.  Small enough for Her to park aswell and when She gets really old not having to drop into it will be good :D

(http://www.rockcrawler.com/features/newsshorts/02january/jeep_wrangler.jpg)


What an excellent idea :lol:  :lol:  :D  :wink:
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 11, 2006, 14:17:08
Quote from: "grant"
3 series conv obviously

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

No Yuppie red brace mobiles here thankyou :x  :x
Title: MIL NEW MOTOR
Post by: tiltboy on March 11, 2006, 15:15:43
Now then,

On my list would be;

New Mini Cooper (S), cheap compared to some "sports" cars and fantastic residual values, if you use the H.P. arrangements with balloon option you can sell after one year and even make a profit!!

Skoda Octavia VRS, what can I say. Fantastic car. I run a Superb 1.9 elegance myself and can vouch for the build quality.

Finally Golf GTi or Audi TT. Super chassis and back on form after a few years of boredom.

My father has an RX8, bit fussy.

Merc CLK? Really poor dealer service. Friend recently bought a CLK and went to Germany to pick it up. Did the factory tour then was shown his new car - totally wrong model! OOPPS
Title: Re: MIL NEW MOTOR
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on March 11, 2006, 20:21:05
Quote from: "tiltboy"
Now then,
On my list would be;New Mini Cooper (S), cheap compared to some "sports" cars and fantastic residual values, if you use the H.P. arrangements with balloon option you can sell after one year and even make a profit!!

Not a lover of these, did you know it's got the same wheel-base as the original Range Rover (100"). Not really a Mini is it??

Quote from: "Tiltboy"
Skoda Octavia VRS, what can I say. Fantastic car. I run a Superb 1.9 elegance myself and can vouch for the build quality.

Well we've got a Fabia, have tested a Fabia vRS& like it.
A while  ago (before Superb was announced) they produced a concept car.
The Tudor (http://www.skoda-auto.com/global/showroom/concepts/tudor/), essentially a two-door Superb, it looked superb (no pun intended)


They've been to look at MazdaMX-5 & up to the 'Old Star Garage' at Collingham today & have seen a MGB -GT & a (re-shelled) '72 Midget.
 
Now if that was in production it'd be short listed

Quote from: "tiltboy"
My father has an RX8, bit fussy.

Like the Suicide Doors (even though they're not proper ones)
Title: tudor
Post by: tiltboy on March 11, 2006, 23:02:56
Now the Tudor I like.

No good for us though. Our Superb is used as a chauffeur drive car. Massive rear legroom, leather everywhere and power everything. A8 quality at Mondeo money. Skoda all the way for me. Even my customers (mainly H.M. Government!) like it.

The Mini is a cracking little car. Handles so well, it just keeps turning in!

Saabs 92 is due soon isn't it? Same size as a Subaru and lots quicker. Still a G.M. though.

I'll think on.
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: mud-club-matty on March 11, 2006, 23:22:29
i think u should off give her your disco 50th and not sold it lol  :D
Title: got it
Post by: tiltboy on March 11, 2006, 23:22:43
Honda S2000?  8)
Title: Automotive Heaven & Hell
Post by: bullfrog on March 11, 2006, 23:30:01
Quote from: "dew1911"
Quote from: "bullfrog"
This may get deleted but I will have this for sale :D
PM me for details ! :arrow:  
Just the thing for your MIL :D
(http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c63/Ranger300/General%20pics/audi4.jpg)


That's a Beauty, Depending on what engine's in it it'll be great...


Its a 2.0e. Quick and cheap to insure. Loads of history(near full). drives mint!
3 series are for chavs !
Audi's still have class. We have a merc and this is as nice.
It is not as new but VERY good !
PM me for more specs ! :D
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