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Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 12, 2006, 21:31:58

Well I went to see family in Oxford this week, left in the Frontera came home in a Proton.  As I got near my brothers I noticed the fuel pressure dropping and when I got there it had redlined.  I dipped it and it was empty, I then topped it up and started it again and it was smoking like a 14 year old outside the local off licence.


I have been told it was terminal so I bought my brothers old Proton to keep me mobile.

Hopefully in the future (depending on funds) I will be able to get myself another 4x4 to get my mud fix.

Here (http://www.barryscott.me.uk/gallery2/d/1346-1/Frontera+RIP.wmv) is my tribute.

EDIT: Fuel pressure should read oil pressure

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Littledan on March 12, 2006, 21:37:23

:(  :(  :( sad video  :(

hope it all goes well mate :)

dan

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: TimM on March 12, 2006, 21:38:10

Barry,

I will wear a black armband for a week out of respect for Guinness.

But you must look to the future, and make sure you get the right colour and shape to the badge this time  :wink:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: the loon on March 12, 2006, 21:41:54

I'm filling up  :cry:

any thoughts on a replacement then barry ?
green oval green oval green oval green oval

Title: Re: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Dirty Gertie on March 12, 2006, 21:42:41

Quote from: "Barry Scott"

I noticed the fuel pressure dropping and when I got there it had redlined.  I dipped it and it was empty, I then topped it up and started it again and it was smoking like like a 14 year old outside the local off licence.

[horrified car lover mode]
Erm, I think that'd be OIL pressure!!, You ARE meant to check it weekly y'know!!!, not suprised it gave up and died if that's how you've treated it!! It can't have just 'gone' you'd have noticed the oilsmoke!![/horrified car lover mode]
[s'OK it's not a landy mode]
Sounds like the piston rings are shot if it's smoking like that! I presume it's a petrol?[/s'OK it's not a landy mode]

Title: Re: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 12, 2006, 21:52:20

Quote from: "Dirty Gertie"

Quote from: "Barry Scott"

I noticed the fuel pressure dropping and when I got there it had redlined.  I dipped it and it was empty, I then topped it up and started it again and it was smoking like like a 14 year old outside the local off licence.

[horrified car lover mode]
Erm, I think that'd be OIL pressure!!, You ARE meant to check it weekly y'know!!!, not suprised it gave up and died if that's how you've treated it!! It can't have just 'gone' you'd have noticed the oilsmoke!![/horrified car lover mode]
[s'OK it's not a landy mode]
Sounds like the piston rings are shot if it's smoking like that! I presume it's a petrol?[/s'OK it's not a landy mode]

The pressure was dropping during the journey, it was fine at the start and the smoke did not start till later.  The oil was all over the floor and as the smoke was white it was probably not from the oil.  And yes, I meant to write oil pressure.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Lee_D on March 12, 2006, 22:08:23

Right you bunch of wusses get your pinkys on to ebay and find another lump for the old gal... blimmey not going to let a little thing like no engine get in the way of a good old mud plugging are yer  :roll:

Nice vid though, playful little tinker wasn't it...syncronised mudding at it's best.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: thermidorthelobster on March 12, 2006, 22:13:29

Just watched the video - brings a tear to the eye!  I think you should get it on the road again, you know you want to!

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 12, 2006, 22:16:31

Thanks for the comments.  Unfortunately my mechanical skills max out at brake disc replacement, I have no idea what to do with engines.

The money would be better spent by being put aside till I can afford something with a green oval as many here suggest.  It will probably be hitting ebay soon for spares.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: j99mud on March 12, 2006, 22:25:19

bad news barry mate! im going to miss pulling that little car out of the mud! hope you get a new motor sorted soon
regards james

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Damonski on March 12, 2006, 22:25:32

I pray its just a little gasket.

Looks like great fun was had in the mud there!

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: C C on March 12, 2006, 22:44:19

Bad luck Barry. I hope the withdrawal symptoms aren't to severe.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: dave_2A_2.25Turbo on March 12, 2006, 23:01:37

Completed remanufactured engine used to be £800 from Vxhall (2.2 16v)

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: hobbit on March 12, 2006, 23:03:27

There's one for sale round here, its a copper bronze one, dont smoke seen it running, nice colour

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: bullfrog on March 12, 2006, 23:17:02

Just chuck a 2L in from an old cavelier and nail it !! buy a scrapper for under a £100 !
Nice powersliding in the mud mate ! :D
Everyone else too ! :D  :D

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Jim-Willy on March 13, 2006, 00:02:41

Really bad news Matey from someone that understands.  My first car was a Proton 1.5mpi.  Fastish in a straight line but cornered like barge.  You hate it as much as i hated mine i am sure.  And theres me thinkin' theres no downward step from a Frontera.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Bulli on March 13, 2006, 08:18:47

Hard luck, it happens though.

Fitting a replacement engine isnt easy but its not too hard eother. Just make sure you get the right engine. Undo all the harness(take lots of piccies and lable things) Get an engine hoist hired and unblot from its mounts/ gearbox and take it out.
Use the photos to put it all back.
Im sure frontera engines must be 2 a penny nowadays.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Jan on March 13, 2006, 08:49:02

That was soooooooo beautiful n sad  :cry:  :cry:  :cry:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: defenderdan on March 13, 2006, 11:26:51

Sorry to hear of the sad loss you have just suffered. You have to bear in mind though that every cloud has a silver lining.....
























......bring on the green oval! :(bigwicked):

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Ja1983 on March 13, 2006, 12:30:35

sure that in exchange for beer tokens the guys on here will be able to help you out.. the best lessons are learnt through doing it yourself!

..like PUMP YOUR BRAKES AFTER CHANGING PADS!! - thats one lesson i wont forget in a hurry!  :lol:  :lol:

all you need is an engine lift, a replacement engine (2.0LET/or V6????!!? :twisted: ) and a long weekend with a couple of mates!

i would say sod it and space dependant (no good doing it on side of main road) go for the 2.8 derv conversion, will be able to pick up a bent 5 door derv for next to nowt i`m sure.

try www.thorntonbreakers.co.uk they seem to collect fronteras at one point! :wink:

dont loose faith  :wink:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 13, 2006, 15:27:35

I won't put any money into the Fronty, I will save for this Green Oval of which you all speak.

The proton is not so bad, this model is the 1.6 with disc brakes all round and corners well.

It's no 4x4 though.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Berliner Beer on March 13, 2006, 15:40:46

Blimey.....I was almost CRYING..... That was a great time at WWW2. Hope to see ya in a 4x4 soon. Good LUCK

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: jetpowered on March 13, 2006, 15:46:49

Lots of spirit in the old gal.

Sounds like a head gasket is there any oil floating in your radiator, if so its an easy fix and not to pricey if you don't fancy changing it yourself.

Offer it as a practical test / project at your local motoring college (diagnose and repair) the little blighters will be greatful of the challenge and it will only cost you a couple of 10p mixes and a bottle of coke.

 :cry:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Tailendcharley on March 13, 2006, 15:55:24

:cry:  :cry: My condolences Barry..I watched your video...very moving experience...the two of you seemed very suited...by the way how do you produce a video like that...the music was very appropriate as well...top marks mate..... =D>  =D>

Bye now....

 :cry:  :cry: Billy no Mates :wink:  :wink:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: gtomo2 on March 13, 2006, 17:39:51

its always sad to let a close one go. Nice tribute to her.  :(bigcry):














NOW GO GET YOURSELF A GREEN OVAL :D You know you want one :lol:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on March 13, 2006, 19:50:29

you gotta try and shoehorn a V8 under there, breath the old gal a new lease of life. 8)

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 13, 2006, 20:25:19

Quote from: "Tailendcharley"

...by the way how do you produce a video like that...

I just use the Windows Movie Maker that came installed on my PC with Windows XP, it is really easy to use.

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: bezzabsa on March 18, 2006, 17:41:13

check ebay under spares or repair in the car section.about 3 frontys in there
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Frontera-Sport-1993-L-Reg-Spares-or-repair_W0QQitemZ4623384608QQcategoryZ9858QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
plus an isuzu 3.1 mystery utility

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Jake on March 18, 2006, 17:53:27

Its a real shame Barry
The little Frontera was a great little 4x4
I hope you get yourself a nice green oval car real soon.
The power sliding section of the video at Whaddon was fantastic.
(You can see me too!, i'm stood next to my car at one point right in front of the camera  :wink: )
And nice to see one of my (http://members.mud-club.com/profiles/Jake/gallery/wickedwhaddon/4/e1ed29363626cfc69aa409c23ae62f22.jpg/) pictures in your Video.
(I'm always pleased when my pictures get seen by the world. Thats why i always take loads)
Dont be a stranger Barry
Your always welcome
 :D

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: davidlandy on March 18, 2006, 18:30:32

Barry

a brilliant tribute ! :D

I remember seeing you do-nutting it at Whaddon with the engine bouncing off the rev limiter! :shock:

it done well to last this long I suppose. :wink:

Title: Frontera July 2005 - March 2006 R.I.P.
Post by: Barry Scott on March 20, 2006, 13:03:08

Thanks for all the kind words.

Jake, I like that picture.  My dad took some there and some video but cannot find them so yours is the only 1 I can find (and looks great).