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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Benji on May 23, 2004, 21:48:50

Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: Benji on May 23, 2004, 21:48:50: Did anyone here the report on Jeremy Vine's radio 2 show recently about running diesels on vegetable oil?

Sounded like a bit of a gimmick to me but went to there website and it seemed a bit more believable (www.dieselveg.com). Im interested in converting my disco but need more info about long term use and whether it damages the engine? Any views?

The tax issue seems a bit dodgy though. Apparently you have to pay duty of about 27p a litre, but how would they know if you buy the oil from your local cash and carry? When you add the 40p a litre cost of virgin oil and the duty, the savings don't appear to be that huge!!!

Has anyone converted their vehicle?
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: strapping young lad on May 23, 2004, 21:56:19: im sure you can also use used chip shop oil..

but as you say the tax thing is a bit of a mystery and a grey area in which to dabble with..
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: Paul on May 23, 2004, 22:05:36: Apparantly Rape Seed Oil is the best to use,
Not tried it myself but I have been tempted
when you see how cheap it is for 5 gallon at
Makro :D

I'll be watching with great interest :wink:
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: davidlandy on May 23, 2004, 22:09:39: Veg oil does work, mix it with meths or something i think

u have to watch out though as i believe it knackers fuel pump seals etc without some form of chemical additive to assist.

also u must NOT use cooking oil that has animal fats in it. not good.

when running on it your exhaust will smell of the oil, I experienced a lorry that was running on it - smelt of donuts, mmmm donuts!

Dave
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: Pete5844 on May 23, 2004, 22:22:33: My mate runs his old Ford Escort on used chip oil mixed 50/50 with diesel.Car runs fine apart from in cold weather when it solidifies in the diesel filter and then it don't go.That and the fact that your car smells like a mobile chippy.As for settings he has changed nothing,just tips it in,god only knows what it would do to a turbo.

Pete
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: HiFonics on May 23, 2004, 22:24:33: I have seen some other posts on this and the verdict was you should run with more than 5% Veg Oil in Landrover. Cant remember what engine they were on about but it hardly seems worth bothering at that percentage. Would make my 17mpg more agreeable though :D
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: strapping young lad on May 23, 2004, 23:01:21: rapeseed oil eh?

saw acres of the stuff going to driffield the other week!

hmm wonder if a chat to the farmer and a deal could make a niche in the market! :wink:
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: davidlandy on May 24, 2004, 12:14:01: The farmers already know! - they use rapeseed to make Biodiesel which is now being sold in Tescos/sainsburys

the reason that the mix is 5% is because that is the amount you need to make the emissions better, go above that and they dont get any better I'm told. Also 5% makes the fuel sustainable - if we went 100% all the farms wouldnt be able to grow enough to keep up!

Dave
Title: Running a diesel on veg oil
Post by: karloss on May 24, 2004, 18:00:09: They will also run on neat cable oil. And, hydraulic oil if it's diluted with parrafin. Not that I've ever tried Mr Blair. :twisted: