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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Hissy on March 21, 2006, 16:10:25
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Spotted this while in a customers workshop.
The owner had put petrol instead of deisel in his 55 plate D3. :oops: :oops:
Then tried to start it :roll: :roll:
Part of the cure is to replace the high pressure fuel pump which lives at the rear of the engine.
There are two ways of doing this according to the Landrover Tech.
Engine out or body off :shock: :shock:
Evidently it's quicker and easier to lift the body off
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could try that at whaddon one weekend with a nice new range rover?
Neil ? :twisted:
Dazza :twisted:
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Well, the owner will probably remember not to do that again....
Until next time.
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How to army tanks have the ability to run on any fuel. I read it someone once and I can't see how you can run on diesel or petrol unless I was mistaken.
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How to army tanks have the ability to run on any fuel. I read it someone once and I can't see how you can run on diesel or petrol unless I was mistaken.
yes thats true,same with the old stalwarts,they would run on enarly anything you could fit in the hole (If needs must),dunno how but they can
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Technology..........................dont you just Luv IT.........
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Seems a tad radical. I (yes don't laugh) once did it to the wifes VW Passat, modern TDi with cat and all the rest. Drove it for about a mile before I realized. The cure was simply to remove the fuel feed after the pump and drain the tank. OK it took an hour or so but it's been fine since. That was 20k ago at least with no side effects on the distributor pump or anything else for that matter. Cost me an hours labour and £50 to dispose of the 'contaminated' fuel.
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:shock: that looks expensive speaking of putting petrol in a diesel i must remember to ask Jake how his disco is :lol:
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Well, IIRC there are only ten bolts holding the monocoque to the frame, plus the wiring bits and bobs.
Probably quicker than detackling the engine!
But yeah, it definately looks extreme! :shock:
Cheers
8)
Eeyore
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HAHA
Body off for a wrong fuel job.
Thats where the british economy went.
HAHA
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I did it myself last year, juggling 5 vehicles around it was bound to happen
Put 1/2 a tank of petrol in the disco, realised and stopped when the smell from the tank did not correspond with the vehicle I was filling :?
Pain for it, started and pulled forward 20feet, quick phone call drag back home and drained the tank through the sender unit in the floor
Then disconnected the pipe from the fuel pump and pulled the rest out on an electric pump, until drained and filled up from cans, bled and started up no probs, still ok now
Its Ironic I ran it on tickover to drainout the filter and it ran for over ten minutes, this was to proove to somebody on how long it can run on a filter full of fuel, nothing to do with the petrol mistake
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yep, wife did the same with the Zafira..luckily it was only at £5 when she realised.. so she topped the tank with diesel, and we have had no problems...the woman at the till gave her a funny look when she gave her 2 pump numbers...
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Apparently, so probobly wrong, but I remember hearing from somewhere that putting a small concentration of Petrol into a Diesel engine can actually do the engine good. I can't remember how, but It seems to stick.
But I'm known to speak garbage, so why should this be any differant.
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Apparently, so probobly wrong, but I remember hearing from somewhere that putting a small concentration of Petrol into a Diesel engine can actually do the engine good. I can't remember how, but It seems to stick.
But I'm known to speak garbage, so why should this be any differant.
Most lorry drivers used to put a small percentage of petrol (about a 2%) on their tanks, that helped clean the injectors, and was specially good in winter, as it prevented to some extent gellification of the diesel.
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:shock: that looks expensive speaking of putting petrol in a diesel i must remember to ask Jake how his disco is :lol:
Its ok!!
\:D/
:D
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Serious question - would the body-off job be covered by the warranty ?
If not.........would love to see his final bill :(kerching):
Jim
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Serious question - would the body-off job be covered by the warranty ?
Not sure how you warranty for user stupidity :wink:
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know a guy who's wife filled there v8 L322 rangie up with diesel & run it & the insurance covered the 14K bill for a new engine etc
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£££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££££ :roll:
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know a guy who's wife filled there v8 L322 rangie up with diesel & run it & the insurance covered the 14K bill for a new engine etc
How? The mind boggles - the nozzle will not fit ;-) But then...I've heard of people ripping the air intakes of SMART cars and filling them up that way....er.....amazing design that making the air intake match the fuel filler....
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How to army tanks have the ability to run on any fuel. I read it someone once and I can't see how you can run on diesel or petrol unless I was mistaken.
put it this way when i last went away last year to a sunny place with lots of sand :wink: we where putting avtur with a litre of oil in the wolfs :D (avtur airplane fuel) and they ran fine :wink:
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The nozzle fitted the wifes VW :roll: :lol:
The gentleman who drained our fuel tank explained to me...
Diesel is heavier (hence heavy oil) than petrol therefore it sinks to the bottom of the tank if left undisturbed. Most vehicles draw fuel off from near the bottom of the tank so if you make the mistake and don't slosh it about too much, most diesels will run for quiet a while with petrol 'floating' on top of the diesel. I found this out myself. When he drained the tank you could smell the change in fuel as the diesel turned to petrol. It was very obvious. The most likely damage he told me was fuel pumps and distributor pumps where the moving parts rely on the 'oil' in diesel to lubricate them. I know someone else who put petrol in his new (3 week old) BMW. It cost £3k to sort it as BMW insisted every part that was 'touched' by the petrol needed to be replaced, otherwise those parts would be invalid on the warranty.
After I'd made the mistake, my wife found it highly amusing to randomly stick labels on cupboards, keys, doors etc saying "diesel fuel only" for about 2 weeks afterwards. :lol:
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ho ho
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ho ho
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Thats not what I said Dave :lol: I can give you detailed instructions for your Passat should you ever leave your brain at home like I did that night. I was obsessed for months...diesel, diesel, diesel DIESEL !!!!!!! :lol:
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Are you listening to the footie too Dave ?
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Petrol in diesel yes .... but not the other way around....
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Petrol in diesel yes .... but not the other way around....
i have done the other way round intentionally,
well when some1 offers 105 litres of "slighty" contaminated super it would be rude to say no,specially for running the racer on,makes it a bit smokey though
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Petrol in diesel yes .... but not the other way around....
All you'll get is an slightly abnormal acumulation of carbon in the plugs, other than that, a bit of smoke, couple of coughs and puffs, and a wee decline in performance.
However, the engine will not have problems with lubrication :D
I have never been able to discover at what point the mixture is too rich in diesel to stop the engine running, but one of our foremen once run his 1.4 Ford Escort with at least 40% diesel on the tank. It was a good laugh. :D
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The chap at Landrover told me that the injector pump has a special lubricating grease which is dissolved by petrol.
He was changing fuel pump, injector pump, fuel tank, fuel filter,injectors,
pipework and anything else he could get his hands on.
The bill.... In excess of £5000 :shock: :shock: :shock:
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Apparently, so probobly wrong, but I remember hearing from somewhere that putting a small concentration of Petrol into a Diesel engine can actually do the engine good. I can't remember how, but It seems to stick.
But I'm known to speak garbage, so why should this be any differant.
Yes or kerosene, its also what we used to do while in very cold climates with the diesels, funnily enough I had an email from someone in norway and he has waxed diesel in the vehicle that I helped get over there for him
("so i have not had much time with the land rover. it has been verry cold for a
long period, -15 degrees celsius, down to -25 at some nights. so i have cheack
the cooling/engine so that it would not freeze, so i have had that under
controll. the diesel has frozzen thow, we use kerrosene (?) in our diesel in
wintertime, so i has not been able to start engine for a while. have change
fuel filter and aired the system with no luck. will have a diesel friend to
have a look at it when i get it home, hopefully before this weekend.")
In normal uk conditions obviously there is not much of a worry but even in germany the weather can regularly drop in the minus 10s for weeks at a time, being a land locked country in main
In the 70s uk diesel started freezing, waxing to be more accurate, they then started adding some additive in the 80s not sure what the level is now, but it must be round -10 at a guess for the uk
But it was not low enough for that guy's landy up in Norway though, as that was uk diesel in the tank