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Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: clbarclay on April 18, 2006, 21:43:34

How good are the luggage scanners at british airports (manchester)? or are the airlines getting more relaxed about the odd pen knife on an areoplain.

Either way I was on an airplane last week with a knife in my hand luggage and nobody new or seemed to care, fortunatly I only realised this when looking in the rucksack later in the week so i didn't spend the flight thinking whether i should try it on for a laugh or not (I have a strange, almost human mind).


Scary really when you think how much time an effort they seemed to spend on airline security.

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Edge on April 18, 2006, 22:00:14

Tis scary, especially when they even checked inside my camcorder tape cases last time i flew.
They must have relaxed security.

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: beast5680 on April 18, 2006, 22:08:48

you want to wear steel toe cap boots they double check everything then, when i went to norway last week i wore some and was nearly strip searched in amsterdam airport on the way out :lol:

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: jnoshea on April 18, 2006, 22:13:33

Every time I fly to Sweden I have a complicated stainless steel tubular structure with bits coming off it that make it look like a rocket launcher.  Obviously I'm not stupid enough to put it in my handluggage but I'm amazed that I've never heard "Could James O'Shea please go to the information desk..." a few minutes after check-in. They obviously don't ever scan checked in baggage. Presumably the containers they put our luggage in is bomb proof. 8)

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Edge on April 18, 2006, 22:16:22

Quote from: "beast5680"

you want to wear steel toe cap boots they double check everything then, when i went to norway last week i wore some and was nearly strip searched in amsterdam airport on the way out :lol:

 :lol:  :lol:

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Tigger on April 19, 2006, 08:22:38

The thing you have to understand is that most of the security you undergo as a normal passenger is done for the purposes of making you *feel* more secure.   They need to be seen to be doing something.

A massive amount of security work is done in the background with intelligence and more covert operations.

Don't forget, on some airlines they still give you metal cutlery in business class ;-)

The sad thing we all have to realise is the basis for most successful attacks (terrorist or otherwise) which works on the premise that if someone is willing to sacrifice their own existance to further a cause, then it is very hard to combat.   It's one of the reasons that certain religions teach martyrdom as a fundamental principle.

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Eeyore on April 19, 2006, 09:24:41

Having been part of a group trying to get to China I have experinece the full monty of airport security.

Yes, they scan luggage in the hold (very thoroughly). And yes, they do check for explosives. Try leaving Heathrow with a laptop that been kept in the same room as a liscensed explosive store.......... man, they come down on you quick!  :shock:

There was a shout of 'plastergel!' and four of the biggest men in Christendom descend on the poor soul carrying the laptop. The guy that actually owned the laptop (we took four out with us) then owned up.  ....and four of the biggest men in Christendom descended! Good job he was carrying his bang liscense!  :?  He didn't half sit down gently afterwards - can't think why...........

A few years earlier, the same laptop owner was carrying several thousand pounds worth of cutom-built Hilti battary packs. He informed BAA, he informed the authorities in Borneo of what was happening. Hell, he even showed them to the pilot. Forgot about changing planes in Singapore, didn't he.  #-o

.....at least Singapore authoities were nice enough to show him the crator where his drilling kit had been 'humanely destroyed'!  :lol:

So yeah, airports are still taking things seriously!

cheers
 8)
Eeyore

Cutlery? Pah! They give you a newspaper and they're really easy to kill someone with!

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Lostboy on April 19, 2006, 09:40:46

Try going through scanners in Florida with erm, body piercings.

Oh what fun I had - NOT!

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: strapping young lad on April 19, 2006, 09:53:00

or try going through a florida airport trying to sound like a redneck...

they dont like the mickey taken out of them

stern looks... hell yeah.. and they carry guns !  :shock:

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: clbarclay on April 19, 2006, 12:35:34

Quote from: "strapping young lad"

and they carry guns !  :shock:

And not just little guns, a marines armed with a m16 can come very big and imposing. Needless to say, flying out of florida 6 months after 911 I was on my best behaviour, remembered not to take the pen knife that time.

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: dazzawhipple on April 19, 2006, 12:44:14

try flying out of Stuggart or Zurich with a Laptop and a camera not your normal camera through worth 150K which has been near a nuclear source(It is clean)

The paperwork you have to carry in all languages :roll:


Darren

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: bezzabsa on April 19, 2006, 21:05:02

so glad i have never been on a plane...dont even have a passport  :shock:

Title: Just when you though it was safe to fly again
Post by: Sheddy on April 19, 2006, 22:06:36

I had to go and demonstrate how to build a shed in Romania a couple of years ago.

"Whats in the case" they asked.

"Nail guns" I replied.

Dunno where the big blokes came from but they didn't half arrive quick.