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Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: Jake on May 22, 2006, 19:22:28
Heathrow's Concorde has moved.
It was in the middle of the airfield (where you could just about see it from the road)
It still looks so fast, even stood motionless.
Such a shame.
Still, double decker planes to look forward to now.  :roll:
 :D  :(  :D  :(  :D  :(  :D  :(  :D  :( (i cant make up my mind)
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: tonycougar on May 23, 2006, 22:48:02
Yeah and all down to beaurocratic nonsense.
It crashed due to pilot error among other things???
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: ritchiea2005 on May 23, 2006, 23:31:05
It was a crime against engenering when concorde was took out of service :sobsob:
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: WishIhadaLandy on May 24, 2006, 08:50:40
Quote from: "ritchiea2005"
It was a crime against engenering when concorde was took out of service :sobsob:


I agree, the aviation industry took a giant jump backwards when they removed it.
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: blackbob on May 24, 2006, 09:12:33
Quote from: "tonycougar"

It crashed due to pilot error among other things???




it crashed due to bits of debrie on the runway being sucked up into the engine
not pilot error
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: strapping young lad on May 24, 2006, 09:28:52
ive seen the airport program and they have people in discos driving up and down the runways checking for such debris?

or is this something they did following the concorde crash?
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: WishIhadaLandy on May 24, 2006, 10:55:12
The problem was the french engineers (it was an air france concorde) as they didn't put the guard back on the wheel assembly, this guard is designed to stop pieces of debris damaging the tyres. If this guard had been put on:

no punctured tyre, so
no blown fuel tank, so
no fuel leak, so
no fire and explosion, so
no crash, so
no taking concorde out of service :evil:

Good old french people.
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: WishIhadaLandy on May 24, 2006, 10:55:58
Quote from: "strapping young lad"
ive seen the airport program and they have people in discos driving up and down the runways checking for such debris?

or is this something they did following the concorde crash?


no they've done that for years
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: DaveS on May 24, 2006, 11:01:29
They were modified, and put back into service after the crash -but costs were stated as the reason for withdrawing ! Concorde use pure jet with afterburner so are real gas guzzlers!

 These days the fuel bill would probably make it uneconomic.

They are looking at bigger jets like the A380 to give a higher return and being turbofan are more efficient.
I agree a sad day when they were withdrawn after spending all that money on the mods. :twisted:
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: barmiebrumie on May 24, 2006, 12:32:32
At the last place where I worked we were right at the end of the runway here in Brum, & whenConcord flew its last flight out of Brum we stood on top of our recovery truck as it went over our heads, all I can say is -



                                           WOW



John.
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: Karen696 on May 24, 2006, 16:32:07
I used to live in Freckleton, just down the road from Warton where much of the development work went on.  As a (very young) child, at school I saw a number of the first test flights from the school playground and many of my school friends dads worked on the project.

Twas a sad, sad day when they took it out of service. :(
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: WishIhadaLandy on May 24, 2006, 19:46:52
Quote from: "Karen696"
many of my school friends dads worked on the project.


My grandad worked on concorde, he said the french half of the project weren't always very co-operative.  :?
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: Evilgoat on May 24, 2006, 19:59:40
It was and still is the safest jet airliner ever flown.

So many reasons were given for the crash but at the end of the day it was due to cost cutting making people cut corners. The same cost cutting later grounded the plane as uneconomical and supposedly unsafe.

Shame Maggie hammered the nails into the HOTOL coffin otherwise she'd have been retired due to being redundant :)
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: tonycougar on May 24, 2006, 23:10:52
Quote from: "blackbob"
Quote from: "tonycougar"

It crashed due to pilot error among other things???




it crashed due to bits of debrie on the runway being sucked up into the engine
not pilot error


Yes but like all aircrashes it was a catalogue of errors making a chain. The aircraft should have been able to take off on one engine. Why didn`t it get shut down?
The aircraft was overweight.
The aircraft also took off with the wind instead of into wind like most aircraft do. If it had taken off into wind it would have had enough power/lift to take off with one engine.
Basically if it hadn`t been overweight and took off the correct way accident may not have happened, or at the very least it would have been survivable.

Saw all this on discovery channel. An old concord chief pilot said it.
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: littlepow on May 25, 2006, 22:37:58
Problem with planes is that during take off and landing, they lack power speed and height. This makes very little margin for error, or time for pilots to react.
They used to say that jags had 2 engines, so when 1 failed the other could get it to the crash site! :roll:
Title: For those that miss the legend
Post by: tonycougar on May 26, 2006, 23:17:48
Quote from: "littlepow"
Problem with planes is that during take off and landing, they lack power speed and height. This makes very little margin for error, or time for pilots to react.
They used to say that jags had 2 engines, so when 1 failed the other could get it to the crash site! :roll:


 :(biglaugh):

Similar with Lightnings I think!

But Concord had 4 very big powerfull engines. Same as Vulcan (if I`m not mistaken) but with afterburners
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