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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Bush Tucker Man on June 26, 2006, 10:11:05
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With due regard to the two threads; 'First Car To Do A 'Ton' In' (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=25446) & 'First Car' (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=25433)
After browsing some of the answers, it was interesting to see the variety of marques & models.
So, on a similar basis, I'm going to enquire about what cars you're all regretting not buying, or even simply driving at some point during your motoring life, or indeed prior to the vehicles demise into (possible?) classic/'old-nail' status.
Just a couple of ground rules, to keep it within reason
1 No Supercars, ie; fast-Fiats (Ferraris), rapid tractors (Lambo's),etc...... (sadly that also rules out the snake - the AC Cobra)
2. Standard production-line cars, orderable from any main-dealer
3. Cars, not 4x4s for this one, please :wink: *
So I'll start the ball rolling, with reasons as far as possible
1 Triumph Dolomite Sprint.
A very 'British' car. it still stands out in my mind for its engine & the seemingly amazing (at the time) to exceed 40MPH in 1st gear!! (@6500RPM)
Someone opposite my parents when I was a kid had a green one & he used to make it 'howl' on a morning, could hear him heading off down the Common :lol:
2. Vauxhall Senator 3.0
Still revered by quite a few of 'old-school' Traffic Officers I speak to as being one of the best 'traffic cars' ever produced.
The sight of one on the M62 at a (guesstimated?) 140MPH still stands in my mind
An executive car to equal the Teutonic brigade (& Yes!, I know it's an Opel :roll: )
3 Ford Capri 2.8i
Just brings a smile to my face when ever I see one, the (run-out edition) 280 is even nicer.
4. Lotus Sunbeam
What a perfect little car, just so right in its looks
Oh to have one as a 'Q-Car' on pension day & annoy the Chavs :lol:
5. Rover P5B
Quintissentially British car. Used by Prime Ministers up to (the early days of ) John Major. (& the first Rover to use the ex-Buick V8 )
6. VW Golf GTi (mark1)
The car that really started the 'hot-hatch' phenomema.
I'm not a fan of this genre, but would like to try a bog-stock one out of sheer curiosity.
*I mean 'off-road' 4x4's, not vehicles like Cosworths, Quatro, Interceptor FF, etc....
Tht'll do for a starter :wink:
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2. Vauxhall Senator 3.0
Still revered by quite a few of 'old-school' Traffic Officers I speak to as being one of the best 'traffic cars' ever produced.
The sight of one on the M62 at a (guesstimated?) 140MPH still stands in my mind
An executive car to equal the Teutonic brigade (& Yes!, I know it's an Opel )
They will hold and cruise 140 easilly. My dad had an ext traffic one. I'll always remeber the way that big stright 6 roared when you stomped it, sounded like it had afterburners :)
Always got the car I wanted but the one I missed out on was a supercar so :P
Was gutted missing out on an Audi RS2 a couple of years ago.
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2.8 Capri...no contest :lol: 8) 8) - still look good to this day
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nsu ro80,what a beutiful car so ahead of its time ,shame about the crap rotary engine though (usually replaced with the ford v4)
ford corsair ..dont see many about today
morris marina i had 4 :lol:
mini ,say no more :lol:
escort rs 2000 ..nice :lol:
willies jeep
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1. Vauxhall Lotus Carlton/ Opel Lotus Omega
What a car, 5 seats of pure speed, still is one of the fastest 5 seaters produce with a top speed knocking around the 180mph mark. Great looking as well.
2. Audi S1 Quattro
The Origional, the engine slung on top of the headlights but what an example of German enginering at it's finest.
Sure I'll possibly get some more later.
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vw beetle 1300cc
definatly the westminster, mk1 1600 capri, renault 25, mini
apart from that the rest of my cars were mostly junkers
car i have owned
westminster
2 vw beetle's
range rover
austin 1800 (the worst car i ever had)
mk2 capri
mk1 capri
vw passat early
vw passat later est 5cyl
fso estate (bought new then had a fire)
renault 20
mk2 escort
3 montego's(2 autos 1 man est)
3 ford sierra's
granada
2 renault 25's
mini 1000
renault clio
vw beach buggy(16yrs to make 9 mots to brake)
cf motor home (fun to drive the road in front was always clear)
fiat motorhome(ci body total crap bought new wist we hadn't)
dodge bus conversion
landrover discovery
all these in 22 years
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2. Audi S1 Quattro
The Origional, the engine slung on top of the headlights but what an example of German enginering at it's finest.
And in many ways still unbeaten. Mine has the same 2.5Lt S5 10V Turbo engine and drivetrain. Sticks to the road like its on rails and for such a heavy car, man can they shift. almost twice the weight of a Scooby and yet almost as fast, more reliable and more fun. Almost V8 sounding scream as they pick up :)
Had the chance to buy Dads Senator but an inept mechanic finished it off. When it was taken away to an enthusiast it needed crankshaft bearing, crankshaft, torque converter and possibly a lot more. Mechanic did something to it, we still dont know what, then disconnected the oil light, so mum drove it about 3000 miles with the bottom end getting only splash lubrication.
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i miss my mk2 16v gti it was nice. suttley lowered just rite ported and polished head, stainless steel manifold stright through exhuast and would leave alot of chavs still wondering wot the red flash was :lol: on a private road of course :lol: i really miss all my golfs :cry:
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The Latest breed of Audi Quattros (RS6 and so on) Still use pretty much the same platform - Very little has changed.
It is worth noting at this point that there are two types of quattro.
1. quattro - Also known as "Halex", wehere the Vehicle is Front driven until grip is lost, then the differential automatically fires power to the back end. Used on most A3 and A4 normal Quattros.
2. Quattro - The one everyone knows, perminant 4x4. Used in things like the RS4 and Q7.
A lot of people think all Audi Quattros are 4x4, but in reality only the really sporty ones tend to be perminant.
oh, number 3 for my list
Aston Martin V8 Vantage.
Windsor Castle on wheels with a V8, bloody fast for the size of car and also tremendous luxury.
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the only car i regret not buying was a 2+2 e type. needed work doing to the interior.
£2500,00
went and bought a toyota celica 1.6 st twin carb instead.
we had a dolly sprint for a while, was a nice car.
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The cars i miss the most are
1. 2 Litre DOHC Serria estate prevous owners where cosworth engineering It had been tweaked
2. Vauxhall Omega 2.5 V6 auto all leather every conceavable extra went like a rocket
Darren
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2 of my previous cars that i miss
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/1600SPORT005-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/IMG_3789.jpg)
i was well into my fords and my dream car is still a 3dr sierra cosworth in moonstone blue o so sexy!
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2 of my previous cars that i miss
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/1600SPORT005-1.jpg)
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/IMG_3789.jpg)
i was well into my fords and my dream car is still a 3dr sierra cosworth in moonstone blue o so sexy!
have to say that is one of my favorite escorts, the mk1 rs2000 in two tone blue! that one looks even better in rally spec!
v v v nice
j.p
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The only 2 cars I really miss :cry:
Golf Gti Mk 2 :lol:
Audi coupe :lol:
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I made a tough choice before i got my 1st Discovery.
I was working for a Vauxhall dealership as a car valeter and we used to move the cars between the sites and to and from customers.
We got to drive the entire range (to the max sometimes :lol: )
My favorites were the 2.6 GSI Vectra, the 3.2 Omega and the Astra 2.0 turbo 888 coupe.
I sold my Series 3 and made some good profit and was forced with a dilema...
Do i buy a Range Rover (which i've wanted since i was 10) out right or use the moneys on a VX220 Turbo on finance.
The dealership offered me a 6 month old VX220 for £14,000 (they are £22,000 new) and iwas sorely tempted.
But (is'nt there always) i decieded that my licence and life was far to important to risk on a 4 sec to 60 2 seater with the handling of a Lotus Elise.
I could'nt find a Range Rover which i liked in the end and bought my 3.5 V8i Disco instead
Looking back.....did i make the right choice :-k .
Yeah, i think so.
The VX220 would have been great fun but its not very family friendly and i do reckon i would have crashed it by now.
Maybe in the future i'll get one :twisted: .
8)
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2 cars i miss
ford cortin2 1600e mark 2 (not 1600gt)
Rover p6 (1966)
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Regret not buying: Aston Martin for £2000
Miss: Lotus Eclat, Jensen Healey, Datsun 260Z 2+2 (The first 2 share the Lotus 907 engine, also uised in the Espirit and Lotus Sunbeam)
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The only x1 of the many cars i really miss was the last one i had.
Merc 230 Kompressor (ex-police). Super quick 0-70mph (on motorway) for a saloon.
But cant post that one as it was only imported by the police :wink: .
So lets go with.....XR4x4i.
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I miss my 3ltr 24v senator....
Oh God do I miss it....
especially on the motorway.. the disco dose'nt quite do the speed ! :lol:
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I miss my 3ltr 24v senator....
Oh God do I miss it....
especially on the motorway.. the disco dose'nt quite do the speed ! :lol:
Yeah, they were very nice :D .
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i didnt miss the wolsley 1500 that i bounced off ,when i was a kid :lol: :lol:
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2 of my previous cars that i miss
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/IMG_3789.jpg)
There's a Mk1 practically identical to this knocking around the Stanley/Outwood area
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Always regret getting rid of the Capri 2.8i :( Might buy another one in the future :wink: OR might get hold of a mid 80's to mid 90's Lotus Esprit 8)
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Well thankfully there was nothing said about the american car market! I would have loved a mustang fast top (cant remember what year) but they in my mind are the ultimate car!
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Coulda Had a Senator CD wi the adjustable suspension and 6cyl for £750, a real minter but i daredn't try and insure it at the time :cry:
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Having owned more than 150 cars in 40 years of driveing ,Jags,MGs,Triumphs,Humbers, Fords,Austins,etc,
The one i missed -Austin Healey 3ltr allways wanted one could never pull it off though , made do with a MGC 3ltr, favourite of them all a1340 Austin Cooper S Downton tuned ex works rally car(Tiger Tim),
+20 or more 4x4s,
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Not really within the bounds of this topic (but seeing as I started it :P )
Before px'ing the Discovery for the 110, I seriously considered a TVR Griffith & even test-drove a Griff 400 & a Chimera 450
Oh, I was sorely tempted
(I mean on the road as well, not on a track-day)
Another one I regret missing was a late model Omega 2.5TD CD Estate
(even though it's the B*W engine)
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2 of my previous cars that i miss
(http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y75/RS16i/IMG_3789.jpg)
There's a Mk1 practically identical to this knocking around the Stanley/Outwood area
won't be mine then as a wagon pulled out on me at a junction putting a nice crease down the rear quarter insurance wrote it off :cry:
cars that i wouldnt of minded owning would be a mk1 lotus cortina or a tricked up anglia 105 but the other half would never let me have either :(
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Got to be the 3.o senetor for me as well just one heck of a car to see and drive
Also the ford granada 2.8 ghia sport (dad had one). the v6 just sounded so nice
And the same i ralleid a lotus sunbeam and wrote it off :cry: wish i had kept it locked up in a garage now
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what about the lotus carlton instead of the senetor was the fastest produced saloon car for ages looked pretty mean too
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what about the lotus carlton instead of the senetor was the fastest produced saloon car for ages looked pretty mean too
That was in production while I worked at Lotus. Unfortunately never got to drive it or even ride in it. Awesome car. A good one will still fetch £20k. Not bad when you think the 3000 GSi it was based on wouldn't even fetch £500 now :lol:
I think I am right in saying it was the fastest production saloon right up until the current BMW M5.... and that has a stonking great V10 to do it! The Lotus only had a 3.6 straight six. Oh, OK, it had two wopping great turbos to help it along to 176mph though!
Car I regret not buying....
Genuine Lotus 11 complete with Coventry Climax engine and 'wobbly' wheels.... for £8000. During the silly season at the end of the eighties, they were topping £80,000 :shock: I was looking at building a Westfield 11 and was looking at this at a dealers on Edgware Road. As he said, by the time I'd built the Westfield properly, I could have the real thing for the same money. Sadly at the age of 18, there was no way I could raise £8k :(
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what about the lotus carlton instead of the senetor was the fastest produced saloon car for ages looked pretty mean too
As said by yours truley in about the 4th or 5th post.
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what about the lotus carlton instead of the senetor was the fastest produced saloon car for ages looked pretty mean too
Found the front of the senator looked nicer than the calton plus you never saw a lot of senator taxis, and more room inside the senator with a better finish.
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Gotta be the Ford Crapi..erm Capri RS 3.1
or the Ford escort RS2000 Mk 2...droooooooooooool
keep looking at Sierrra Sapphire cosworths, now I am able to afford the insurance on one ;)
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Seeing as we are going off topic :
When I giot the Audi I had the choice of that, A Skyline GTR34 and a Lotus Esprit Turbo SE
Audi one because it was Sane. Although more expensive to insure than the Lotus. Test drove the Skyline expecting big things and was disapointed. The Lotus I had sent to the Lotus Dealer in Shoreham and they said not to bother it was a 'bad one' and they knew it of old.
First test drive of the (then badged) Audi 80 and I stomped it, and it pulled likea train, I got back to the dealer with a fixed grin, went and did my research and went back the next day :)
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i still miss this as it took me 4 months to restore... 8 hours a day ,and still have the burns :P :
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I really miss my nissan sunny Gtir i loved that car and should never have sold it, as for regrets i so nearly brought an E-type early this year but the wife put her foot down saying i had to many toys :cry: :cry: oh well theres always next year :)
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After having a ride in one on tuesday, the original mini cooper.
My friend down in devon who's big into cars has just finished putting it back on the road, still in factory spec, sounds like a heck of a lot more than 998cc when you rev it and it was just so cool.
He also has a 1967 chevrolet caprice sport, a jeep ??, a Mk1 Golf Gti, a volvo ??, a go kart (for his 11 year old son) and a new mini tucked away in various outbuildings. Along with his daily runner Audi 80 Tdi, which drive's sweet.
Pictures of the volvo and jeep.
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i miss my old VW Jetta 1.8GT.... the thinking mans golf....
was a 1990 model with 'big bumpers' and a spax lowered suspension kit... cornered like it was on rails, and was a lovely motorway cruiser.....
i sometimes miss the old VW Polo i had as a first car... had chunky little tyres on it and VW scirroco front brakes.... it cornered realy well and stopped like an F1 car....
....i miss my VW's..... :(
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i miss mt alfa sud 1.5ti sadly it snapped in half on a heavy landing oooppps :lol:
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Jeep could be a CJ5... :D