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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: mud-club-matty on June 30, 2006, 19:45:34
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for all you dog owners why do we have to pick up the dog poo and the hourse riders dont
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For all those vehicle owners why do we have to pay Road tax and horses don't?
A steel horse shoe does more damage than my rubber tyre.
Why do we have to carry insuranse and horses don't?
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love to see the pooper scooper for a horse :lol:
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I always refused to pick my dogs mess up. If you dont look where you walk then tough. Dogs were around before the pavement. Selfish? Yes i am :twisted:
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my dog backs up to the bushs and has a poo
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Cowboys must do though, I always wondered what they put in the saddle bags :lol:
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I always refused to pick my dogs mess up. If you dont look where you walk then tough. Dogs were around before the pavement. Selfish? Yes i am :twisted:
I agree.........With you being selfish that is [-X
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love to see the pooper scooper for a horse Go to Morocco or Dominican Republic :P
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my dog backs up to the bushs and has a poo
My Staffie does that, if you look at him he get embarrased and stops :D
Al
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I always refused to pick my dogs mess up. If you dont look where you walk then tough. Dogs were around before the pavement. Selfish? Yes i am :twisted:
I agree.........With you being selfish that is [-X
Sorry JW but so do I, Whatever you own, (a Landrover, a dog or a bloody hamster) you should act responsibly & whatever you or your dog etc leaves brhind, you take with you!!
Jeff
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Horses! dont get me going!!
Road damaging, yes
taxed, no
insured, optional
flighty creatures with a lack of brakes/control, yes
poo where they want, yes
scared of noises/cars/bikes/pretty much 'owt, yes
I love to see them out in the fields, where they belong, but on roads, Im sorry but NO.
Dog poop should be picked up in public pedestrian places I think. I dont bother in the fields/woods, but a pavement should be kept clean.
PS. anyone ever come hurtling round a bend on a Motorbike and found a horse has been busy across the road, that stuff is deadly!
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I always refused to pick my dogs mess up. If you dont look where you walk then tough. Dogs were around before the pavement. Selfish? Yes i am :twisted:
I agree.........With you being selfish that is [-X
Sorry JW but so do I, Whatever you own, (a Landrover, a dog or a bloody hamster) you should act responsibly & whatever you or your dog etc leaves brhind, you take with you!!
Jeff
Parasites in dog poo can cause blindness in children. Anyone who does not clear up after their dog obviously does not care about this or is ignorant. Which one are you JW.?
Anyway, what if you are a blind person ? How are they supposed to see the mess you allow your dog to leave.
You dont appear a fit person to have a dog.
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i think someone opened a can of worms here!
normally horses dont poo on the pavement where people walk, or where children play, however dogs do.
remember what you feed a horse... hay and water
dogs get fed allsorts!
what gets me irate about horses isnt the animal or the poo, its the irresponsible riders, either wearing no protective clothing or reflective clothing and worst of all no helmet.
a few lasses ride around the village and on more than one occasion one hand on the rein and the other either txting or on the phone.
persoanlly i dont slow down for horses anymore.. if the horse is afraid of vehicles.. IT SHOULDNT BE ON THE FRIGGIN ROAD!
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i think someone opened a can of worms here!
normally horses dont poo on the pavement where people walk, or where children play, however dogs do.
###But they poo in the road where bikes ride etc###
remember what you feed a horse... hay and water
###apples carrots mints sugar beet, feed supplements eg Equilibra Alpha A. Fairly similar to what dogs get fed###
dogs get fed allsorts!
what gets me irate about horses isnt the animal or the poo, its the irresponsible riders, either wearing no protective clothing or reflective clothing and worst of all no helmet.
###I agree###
a few lasses ride around the village and on more than one occasion one hand on the rein and the other either txting or on the phone.
persoanlly i dont slow down for horses anymore.. if the horse is afraid of vehicles.. IT SHOULDNT BE ON THE FRIGGIN ROAD!
###And I totally agree with the final statement###
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oh and before people think im anti mutt..
i own a boarding kennels.. :wink:
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HE HE HE HE HE................
I thought i would see if i got a bite. My Dog ran in the fields not walked on a chain on the road, He was too lively for that. I never picked up his mess though. I am aware of parasites and don't care, afaik it is mainly strays that carry that parasite, hence it breaking out estates where the mongers roam............ :P
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persoanlly i dont slow down for horses anymore.. if the horse is afraid of vehicles.. IT SHOULDNT BE ON THE FRIGGIN ROAD!
very true. Driving a car that likes to pop and bang out of the exhaust when you have to drive slowly at the right speed also makes it more interesting for the horses!
:twisted:
The good ones dont seem to care but some dont enjoy it!.
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I always refused to pick my dogs mess up. If you dont look where you walk then tough. Dogs were around before the pavement. Selfish? Yes i am :twisted:
You are irresponsible. I do look where I walk but kids don't and in the dark I cannot see where I am walking.
Selfish and hopefully fined.
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normally horses dont poo on the pavement where people walk, or where children play, however dogs do.
Its the worry about kids coming into contact with dog poo that gets me. Fair enough if you live in an area surrounded by fields I would not expect a dog owner to pick up the poo but not on the pavement where the kids play.
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Never mind the dogs, it's (EDIT) cats! whenever we (read Julie) clean up after our dogs, in our garden mind, next day, cat (EDIT), everywhere. Next door has had to get 2 cars resprayed because of cat scratches, whilst on his own drive. Licenced, they should be shot. Anybody who owns a pet and chucks it out to go cr4p on someone else's garden should have all the dog poo that's collected in the world dumped on their sofa, whilst they are in it, then be washed down with stale yacks [throw it].
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Never mind the dogs, it's (EDIT) cats! whenever we (read Julie) clean up after our dogs, in our garden mind, next day, cat (EDIT), everywhere. Next door has had to get 2 cars resprayed because of cat scratches, whilst on his own drive. Licenced, they should be shot. Anybody who owns a pet and chucks it out to go cr4p on someone else's garden should have all the dog poo that's collected in the world dumped on their sofa, whilst they are in it, then be washed down with stale yacks [throw it].
The only good cat is a flat one with a AT tyre mark up it :twisted:
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Never mind the dogs, it's (EDIT) cats! whenever we (read Julie) clean up after our dogs, in our garden mind, next day, cat (EDIT), everywhere. Next door has had to get 2 cars resprayed because of cat scratches, whilst on his own drive. Licenced, they should be shot. Anybody who owns a pet and chucks it out to go cr4p on someone else's garden should have all the dog poo that's collected in the world dumped on their sofa, whilst they are in it, then be washed down with stale yacks [throw it].
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I like Yacks though! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Never mind the dogs, it's (EDIT) cats! whenever we (read Julie) clean up after our dogs, in our garden mind, next day, cat (EDIT), everywhere. Next door has had to get 2 cars resprayed because of cat scratches, whilst on his own drive. Licenced, they should be shot. Anybody who owns a pet and chucks it out to go cr4p on someone else's garden should have all the dog poo that's collected in the world dumped on their sofa, whilst they are in it, then be washed down with stale yacks [throw it].
Yep I hate cats as well
What was that bumper sticker
I slow down for horses!
But speed up for cats.
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It took me about 6 months to retrain the cat next door to me when I first moved in.
It was used to wandering into my garden and doing it's mess in a bit of the garden which had some bedding plants.
I had a jug of water at the ready by the door and each time the cat came over the fence, I would quietly open the door and throw the water all over it. You would have thought it would have given up long before it did.
It won't even look at our garden any more :lol:
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a 12gauge does a better job after a while they understand :(biggrin):
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I have 5 dogs and thay can crap where they like so long as it's not inside the house but what really gets my goat is used nappies strewn up the side of the motorway and people who collect their dogs mess in a plastic bag and chuck it in a bush or hang it on a tree. G
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It took me about 6 months to retrain the cat next door to me when I first moved in.
It was used to wandering into my garden and doing it's mess in a bit of the garden which had some bedding plants.
I had a jug of water at the ready by the door and each time the cat came over the fence, I would quietly open the door and throw the water all over it. You would have thought it would have given up long before it did.
It won't even look at our garden any more :lol:
I used to use washing up liquid if they did it in my garden. They don't do it now cos the dogs scare em away.
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12 Guage = good
Yard long wooden shaft with flights = excelent
Waterpistol with Tabasco sauce/chilli mix in = awesome :twisted:
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I feel this is a subject where we can easily brand people into a stereotype! You will always have responsible people in each group, as well as the ones who give the group a bad name.
I quite often see dog owners let their dogs mess on the pavement, even though we have the dog bins around the town.
As a horse rider I choose not to ride on the road, as most drivers dont slow down even though I wear a yellow tabard and ride horses who are good in traffic. I ALWAYS thank people if i meet them on a byway and they let me pass.
And as for the diet thing, horses dont eat meat (unlike dogs) thats why it doesnt smell as bad :D
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my dog dont eat meat he eats dry discits
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I feel this is a subject where we can easily brand people into a stereotype! You will always have responsible people in each group, as well as the ones who give the group a bad name.
I quite often see dog owners let their dogs mess on the pavement, even though we have the dog bins around the town.
As a horse rider I choose not to ride on the road, as most drivers dont slow down even though I wear a yellow tabard and ride horses who are good in traffic. I ALWAYS thank people if i meet them on a byway and they let me pass.
And as for the diet thing, horses dont eat meat (unlike dogs) thats why it doesnt smell as bad :D
Although I don't ride myself, I'm with you.
It's a bit hypocritical of people to slate horses for being on the roads (who've been there for hundreds of years before motor vehicles) & then complain about the banning of 4x4s from the lanes. IMHO Everyone has the right to use the roads / lanes, whatever their choice of vehicle, and no-one should be forced off them by other inconsiderate users!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Well said Landylover, couldn't have put it better myself.
going back to the insurance thing earlier in the post, what about insurance for push bikes. they pull out infront on you, you hit them although it is their fault and do serious damage to your car, but can you claim on their insurance? Chance would be a fine thing.
I'm of the opinion that anyone who uses the roads should have some kind of insurance.
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I for one will admit to hating seeing horses on roads.
They are only vaguely in control at the best of times, and are prone to....erm.....veering about a bit.
My car would not be allowed to use the road if its steering veered about, and it didnt stop as and when the pedal was pressed. There also may be issues if it scampered about if a noisy motorbike or similar overtook it. Im also only allowed to produce a certain level of emissions.
A horse does all of the above and produces solid waste which I can tell you(as a biker) is deadly when you hit it............(and smelly)
I discriminate only on grounds of safety. My 4x4 isnt being banned on safety grounds from the countryside, its being banned cos apparently it tears up the lanes(you ever seen the damage horses feet do to a muddy lane!!!)
Yes Id like to see horses banned from the road.(sorry horsey guys and gals out there). But its from a safety aspect only. Id work for a company that has a body shop, and have seen the damage a horse can do(especially when it SITS on the car :lol:)
I like em tho, theyre lovely things galloping about etc, though I dont share the enthusiasm to ride them.
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I still stick with what I said earlier; cars pay to use the roads, be it byways or motorways; they have to be insured, proven safe, taxed and the "operator" has to pass a test to prove they are capable of driving it safely which they can't even learn to do until they are 17.
A young kid can take any horse on a public road, even one weighing a lot more than many cars and which cannot be controlled and is plainly unsafe.
I am not anti horses but there are people who are irrisponsible with them and they do damage roads. Yes they have been around longer but why should that make them exempt from the road traffic act?
The horses in New York City have little bags under the back to catch the Pooh !
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I'm of the opinion that anyone who uses the roads should have some kind of insurance
Compulsory !!! . . . . should have been sorted years ago.
As for the Horses, I have no problems with them these days, most of the riders I know take out voluntary insurance now so they do have some sense of responsibilty to other road users.
What really gets to me is the pig ignorant attitude of those hordes of bleedin' push bike riders. Never have I know such a miserable, bad tempered, think they can do whatever they want on the road, bunch of uninsured assholes in my life.
Four abreast, holding up the normal road traffic, cutting corners, jumping traffic lights, generally ignoring the majority of road traffic regulations and rules, even the highway code seems to mean nothing to the vast majority of them. Then they have the cheek to complain about motor vehicles.
Statistically they are the group of road users who are most likely to be involved ion an accident . . . . . . but are they insured . . . . most probably not !!!
I tell you, ramblers and push bikers . . . all came from the same mould. 99% of the ones I've met are totaly selfish assholes who want everything for themselves, their own way, whenever they want, at everyone elses expense. . . . nobs !!!!
Oh yeah . . . and my dog craps where he wants . . . . I can't really stop that . . . . . but I do have a bag for clearing up with when in public places :wink:
Rant over . . . good to get that off my chest :twisted:
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All car drivers should be made to ride a bicycle on the roads for a year.
All car drivers should be made to ride a motorbike for a year before they can drive a car.
All new drivers should be restricted to 800 c.c. or less for the first 2 years.
Driving along with music blaring, windows down, leaning forward out of your seat (why???) and being a general [ed: naughty] should be banned or an escape clause for the insurance companies.
Oh yes, I nearly forgot, everyone should be made to ride a horse at least once a month.
Maybe then ... everyone would know and appreciate how everyone else feels :wink:
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Ooh - just thought of another one ... community service should include going round the streets picking up discarded dog poo and chasing cats out of gardens (unless they can prove it's actually their garden) :lol: :lol:
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Agree with your comments regarding the motorcycle bit Gord - not so sure about the push bike thing though, I would hate to be tarred with my own brush :lol:
There is a need for rules and in some cases bans, but it's the level of intolerance and downright irresponsibility shown by some groups that really gets my back up.
Dog mess on the streets though is deffo being anti-social in the highest order. Dog owners really do have a responsibility towards the cleanliness of our environment. If it were not for us wanting to keep dogs, or for that matter cats and horses, then it is very unlikly that these animals would share the same space as us in the first place.
Live and let live, understand and respect your environment. I'm sure that all our lives would be so much richer for it.
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Live and let live, understand and respect your environment.
Fair enough - till your cat comes in my garden for a crap!
Then my dog don't quite see things that way :D
Had a problem with an irresponsible dog owner letting her little rat leave a pile outside my front door every morning. Told her I'd go do the same for her and the problem stopped.
Fact is we just lost a local byway to lazy dog owners too idle to walk off a wide, shale track and use the local bridelways and footpaths. Sad innit?
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there are rude people in every group...
im sure some people here are good cyclists (ie not jumping red lights etc) but my general view is that they are a pain unless they stick to cycle lanes.
i suspect some people have lovely cats here too... but when i moved into my last house the garden was full of cat mess as people dont train their cats to use litter trays anymore.
Its up to the individual. Just like how people accuse 4x4s of ripping up fields and tracks, whereas a lot of the people on this forum will follow the GLASS guidelines and go out in responsible groups and stick to the tracks they are allowed to.
As for my horse? She had better insurance than my car! :wink:
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All car drivers should be made to ride a bicycle on the roads for a year.
All car drivers should be made to ride a motorbike for a year before they can drive a car.
All new drivers should be restricted to 800 c.c. or less for the first 2 years.
Driving along with music blaring, windows down, leaning forward out of your seat (why???) and being a general [ed: naughty] should be banned or an escape clause for the insurance companies.
Oh yes, I nearly forgot, everyone should be made to ride a horse at least once a month.
Maybe then ... everyone would know and appreciate how everyone else feels :wink:
Missed one... everyone should go out with an artic driver ( NO.. not that kind of 'go out' ) for a day.. around London or Birmingham or the like... or even around the M25.. THEN you really understand... :twisted:
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Parasites in dog poo can cause blindness in children. Anyone who does not clear up after their dog obviously does not care about this or is ignorant.
I think it's more correct to say that the parasites can cause blindness in children who are allowed to come into contact with dog poo. Surely at least some of the the responsibility is with the parents here?
I've always taken the view that if it's somewhere people are walking all the time (like a public foot path, or the pavement around a residential area), I'll clean it up, but I'm not running off between the trees in the woods where foxes, deer, and all other kinds of fauna are doing their business too.
Anyway, what if you are a blind person ? How are they supposed to see the mess you allow your dog to leave.
And more to the point, how are they supposed to clean up after their guide dog? :-)
For anyone who is wondering, I can provide the answer. The dogs are trained to do their business on command, and are taken out doors for that purpose before going out "on duty".
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I have two dogs. Around home we don't clean up after them. Only if they poo on the drive. :roll: No pavements, parks ect. Just single track lanes and fields. But if we go in more public places we do. As to cyclists. I cycle, though not as much as I used to. When we where out with a group, (not the head down, R's up variety) if a car approached from behind, a rider at the rear would shout and we would fall into single file. I also fall into some of the other classes mentioned. Ex horse owner, motorcyclist, walker and I've even owned cats. As we know, there are people in all groups who are either selfish or just plain ignorant. All we can do is try not to be like them. BTW. Now the cows are out in the fields, the dogs really enjoy cleaning the 90's mud flaps and under the car's mudguards. :D