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Title: Bigot!
Post by: marjan on July 05, 2006, 18:49:03
Now we all know that most of the press and a lot of other groups of people discriminate against us when it comes to driving on green lanes but I have discovered a new breed of bigot recently.

I recently started a new job and have been settling in nicely until the other day when I used my modified Suzuki Vitara to go to work.

Since then I seem to have been getting all the lousy unpleasant jobs sent my way. Today I found out from a close colleague that the Manager of the company is a member of the Ramblers Association!.

Somehow I doubt that it is a coincidence that I am getting all the rubbish jobs passed my way so soon after parking the Vitara (with large GLASS stickers on) in the company car park.

What a small minded bigot this guy must be  

Mark
Title: Bigot!
Post by: dew1911 on July 05, 2006, 18:50:24
Sue him for Discrimination... That'd teach them. Or try to get round the legal way, would be fun to watch a rambler squirm.
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Edge on July 05, 2006, 18:52:38
Look into work related discrimination laws. But you need evidence & preferably a colleagues statement.

Pretty sure theres a solicitor on here, cant remember who though.
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 05, 2006, 18:56:49
Well if you leave that would be constructive dismissal.

 Personally I'd have a HOOOOOOGE sticker like Julie's made up, "I slow down for horses, I ACCELERATE for ramblers" and see how long it takes to get the sack.
Title: Bigot!
Post by: marjan on July 05, 2006, 18:58:06
Quote from: "Range Rover Blues"
Well if you leave that would be constructive dismissal.

 Personally I'd have a HOOOOOOGE sticker like Julie's made up, "I slow down for horses, I ACCELERATE for ramblers" and see how long it takes to get the sack.


HEE,HEE!.  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:  :lol:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Tiny Tim on July 05, 2006, 19:03:51
Deffo go the discrimination route

See how far he'll ramble wiothout a job !  :evil:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Jas278 on July 05, 2006, 19:06:22
Confront him ....................... :twisted: ................
Title: Bigot!
Post by: MK1 on July 05, 2006, 19:57:56
Borrow a fully prepped motor covered in crap and take it to work. :twisted:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: strapping young lad on July 05, 2006, 20:14:10
be careful as you need to prove it to HR

if HR believe your story then i would suggest you ask them to find out if this guy has something against you since you own a 4x4.

also is the mgr sending you the jobs directly or not?
Title: Bigot!
Post by: mark.yellow.series.3 on July 05, 2006, 20:30:26
keep your chin up and dont bite. show them all how strong minded and mature us 4x4 owners can be :D
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 05, 2006, 20:32:12
pop a few frozen prawns in his desk draw last thing on a friday...  :troll:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: strapping young lad on July 05, 2006, 20:42:03
what is your role?

thing is since you are a newbie in the company you dont know who is who...

but this is classed as bullying in my view and not to be tolerated.


also what is a pithy job?
Title: Bigot!
Post by: muddyweb on July 05, 2006, 20:54:50
As mentioned, this is all about evidence.   You say that you "seem to be getting" all the lousy jobs...  before you can do anything you need to be able to *prove* that there are definably worse jobs and that you are getting them in greater proportion to anyone else.

You then need to be able to prove that he is the one solely responsible for assigning jobs, and then (the hardest part) you need to be able to produce some kind of evidence that he is doing so through some prejudice directed at  you.  

I don't mean to be negative, but you need to be able to demonstrate that the jobs he is giving you don't fall within your normal remit and that you are being singled out for personal reasons before you could proceed with any sort of action.

Might be worth getting to know him a bit better and see what makes him tick ;-)
Title: Bigot!
Post by: poorman on July 05, 2006, 21:20:42
suppose we could all go and park our "not so clean" 4x4's in his car park and see if the boss breaks :twisted:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Quietsleeper on July 05, 2006, 22:33:45
Quote from: "MK1"
Borrow a fully prepped motor covered in crap and take it to work. :twisted:


.... and don't forget to have a couple of bobble hats poking out the rad grill :(biglaugh):
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Bush Tucker Man on July 05, 2006, 22:36:05
Offer to take him laning & see things 'from the other side of the fence'
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Bulli on July 05, 2006, 23:05:08
What do you do for a living? How big is the company? does he look hard? :wink: (just kidding , honest)
I often find the direct approach works. If he really has singled you out say so . By the sounds of it he cant give you any worse jobs!
Title: Bigot!
Post by: bigfatsi on July 06, 2006, 09:03:42
Beware. If you haven't been there a year there's not a lot you can do about it. He can get rid of you without being liable for Unfair Dismissal and if you leave you won't be able to claim Constructive Dismissal as it's based around the same sort of laws. I'm not a solicitor, I can't quote chapter and verse as there maybe a law that supposedly covers you. But in the real world where the bad guys win sometimes, you're likely to just get the boot if you make any waves.

Been there and got the T-shirt.

Best thing is to keep doing what you're doing. Go to work and work hard. Greenlane responsibly. Be happy!
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 06, 2006, 10:59:17
ERA 1996 s108 - Qualifying period of employment
(1) Section 94 does not apply to the dismissal of an employee unless he has been continuously employed for a period of not less than one year ending with the effective date of termination.

Unfair dismissal -
The statutory concept of unfair dismissal was first introduced in nthe Industrial Relations Act 1971. It is now contained in Part X ERA 1996. Section 94(1) ERA 1996 contains a statement of the right, namely that employees have the right not to be unfairly dismissed by their employer. In looking at the question of whether a dismissal is unfair, a number of stages need to be gonr through. These are concerned with, first, establishing the individual's eligibility for protection; secondly, showing that a dismissal has taken place and determining the effective date of termination; thirdly, looking at the reasons for the dismissal; and, lastly, the question of reasonableness.




can you not just have a work with personel/HR? and say you would like more "variety" to your work  :wink:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: marjan on July 06, 2006, 11:19:33
Well, decided to take the bull by the horns yesterday and confront him about it as politely as possible. I took along one of the GLASS leaflets that explains that we are not a set of hoodlems and that we do care for and respect the countryside.

Turns out he has had some dealings with a set of nutters who covered him & his friends in mud once whilst out walking. I explained that these are the sort of people that we try to diss-associate from and suggested that if he had any further problems with vehicles behaving badly whilst out walking he should inform the police or contact me directly if the vehicles have any GLASS or Mud-Club badges on.

Strange how I seem to have a normal workload with fairly straight forward jobs this morning!. :?

Thanks for all the support.

Mark.
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Baby_Rhino on July 06, 2006, 11:31:19
=D>  thats the way to do it!  \:D/
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Jas278 on July 06, 2006, 11:38:38
Well done, things are usually sorted out when a polite ,adult conversation takes place ,SEE, even most Bobble hats are ok..  :shock:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Tiny Tim on July 06, 2006, 14:44:39
Result !  8)
Title: Bigot!
Post by: barmiebrumie on July 06, 2006, 14:48:11
So when does he go greenlaning with you  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ,




John.
Title: Bigot!
Post by: beast5680 on July 06, 2006, 15:34:51
he should learn not to judge by appearance it can be deceiving,where my wife worked they had a rough looking guy come in asking about cars so the salesman ignored him it was only later they found out he ordered a 40 car fleet from the dealer down the road  :lol:  and he was worth millions
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Edge on July 06, 2006, 16:27:36
Quote from: "barmiebrumie"
So when does he go greenlaning with you  :lol:  :lol:  :lol: ,




John.


Yeah, you should seriously consider inviting him along for a mornings off roading.......  he may give you even easier jobs, then a pay rise :wink: .
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Range Rover Blues on July 07, 2006, 02:28:25
Well I think that's evidence he was a first class ars***le.  Glad to hear you put him right... I mean got things sorted amicably :wink:
Title: Bigot!
Post by: Bulli on July 07, 2006, 08:08:03
Glad you got that sorted, try to concert him. It just goes to show how easy it is to pidgeon hole people.
 I spent most of my late teens and early twenties with long hair tight jeans and a Slayer t-shirt on. People would do anything to avoid me. To this day i have never heard of any violence in a rock club , small minded muppets- theres' just no educating pork.
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