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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: Daz800 on July 17, 2006, 09:02:35
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i am about to change my tyres on our td5.
do i go for remould or new tyres.
daz
i like these
235/70R16 INSA TURBO REMOULD MOUNTAIN £ 41.93
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New would get my vote.
cheers
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Eeyore
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thanks
i am going to get general grabbers
I may get the remoulds for winter/off road use on steel wheels :-k
Daz
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New, I only fit the best tyres to my vehicles, it is afterall the only thing that keeps you stuck to the road.
Instead of 2 sets why not just get a good MT like a BFG-MT, i find mine are much better mannered on road than the road tyres LR supplied!!
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Personally I had no problems with the Colway A/T that I had fitted to the Discovery not long after buying it.
They did almost 35,000miles with no complaints & no 'isssues' over quality/traction/wear rates
Admittedly one had to be replaced, as it punctured on the shoulder, but that'd be true of any tyre.
I had Bronco 4x4 (of Leek) M/T pattern re-moulds on the 110Tdi Hard-Top & they were great as well.
Once once more, they did around 25,000miles with no issues.
An indicated 80MPH :oops:, on Welsh mountain roads (near Sweet Lamb), commuting, laning, pay & plays, a great tyre.
The Heritage has an (original??) set of BFG A/T's fitted that look about half-worn -compared to the unused spare- at 50,000miles
Whnen they need replacing, I'll be searching high & low for a set of (hidden away) BGF Trac-Edge
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The stigma that is attached to remoulds should be removed. They are now made to the same specs and standards as new tyres as the law changed a couple of years ago on this.
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The stigma that is attached to remoulds should be removed.
Too true, but like new tyres;
Don't forget to buy them with a suitable speed-rating for the vehicle
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The stigma that is attached to remoulds should be removed. They are now made to the same specs and standards as new tyres as the law changed a couple of years ago on this.
This is certainly true, but personaly I still have huge reservations about fitting a tyre to a vehicle with an unknown carcass history. How many miles has that carcass done? What kind of life? How old is it?
It's assuring that they can finally make the tread stick (and even that I'll question having seen some of the delaminations I have) but it addresses little of the underlying structure.
Yes, remoulds are much better than they were, but IMO, they're still not as good as a new tyre.
cheers
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Eeyore
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well from a fella who had bfg mt the switched too machos remoulds i wont be going back to bfg i find the machos out perform the bfgs in the mud also my truck handles better on road now too :wink: :D IMHO also i could not afford to replace a tyre if i ripped it at £125 a tyre where as i now pay £50 a tyre :wink: well wait for the can of worms to open on this subject :lol: :lol: :lol: :P :P :P
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the stigma attached to remoulds really isn;t necessary
i always run remould gravel tyres on my rally car and hae NEVER had one fail, and given the punishment they get i can't see an issue with them
at 26 quid a corner i don't argue as they only last 1 event for a front pair, and with new tyres costing a 100 quid a corner andonly lasting as long, there isn;t really any argument.
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Have to agree.
I run Grizzly Claw remoulds and they are superb.
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the stigma attached to remoulds really isn;t necessary
i always run remould gravel tyres on my rally car and hae NEVER had one fail, and given the punishment they get i can't see an issue with them
at 26 quid a corner i don't argue as they only last 1 event for a front pair, and with new tyres costing a 100 quid a corner andonly lasting as long, there isn;t really any argument.
But we want tyres that'll last a lot more than one event for our road going cars. In one event you've killed a set (we've made one set of MTs last for three events so far on the racer and they're still going strong :wink: ).
Gnarly tyres for 2t+ cars is a different kettle of fish altogether. Yes, if I know I could afford to trash a set of tyres per event I might go for something ultimately soft but for a road going car expecting decent road milage and life - I wouldn't. Again, for me, a new tyre would win out. :wink:
cheers
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Eeyore
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BGF Trac-Edge
Great Tyres 8) Four of them Under the 110 and one in the shed and they've yet to show any problems, covered nearly 40 000 miles now.
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BGF Trac-Edge
Great Tyres 8) Four of them Under the 110 and one in the shed and they've yet to show any problems, covered nearly 40 000 miles now.
If you get less than 60k, I'd complain! :wink:
cheers
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Eeyore
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Whnen they need replacing, I'll be searching high & low for a set of (hidden away) BGF Trac-Edge
i might know some one who might now where there are some :wink:
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Failing finding BFG 'Trac-Edges', perhaps a set of Grabber M/T's if they're still available either
Whnen they need replacing, I'll be searching high & low for a set of (hidden away) BGF Trac-Edge
i might know some one who might now where there are some :wink:
Sounds intriguing............
But then again, I've still got somthing (http://forums.mud-club.com/viewtopic.php?t=26472) on my mind :wink:
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Hmm, you buying a helecopter then BTM?
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Hmm, you buying a helecopter then BTM?
No, but I do know of 2 within, perhaps, 10miles (in a straight line) from here that live in the owners gardens.
Loads of money there
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ok
Ive gone a got general grabbers uhp (for lots of motorways miles). Later i am going to get a spare set of steel wheels (for winter and playing ) and set of "playing rubber".
Thanks for the replys.
Daz
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I've fitted Colway A/T's to my Disco and not a problem. Lets face it, most trucks use remoulds and so do a lot of airline companies. They can't be that bad.
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I've fitted Colway A/T's to my Disco and not a problem. Lets face it, most trucks use remoulds and so do a lot of airline companies. They can't be that bad.
Interestin' point. Just to put a perspective on it, aircraft tyres have a way different duty cycle than car tyres and, due to their alarming costs, have been designed from the start to be remouldable (the spec list and QA systems for aircraft tyres makes automotive ones look puny). Truck tyres also have carcasses designed to be remoulded (and generally are very stiff in the sidewall which helps the life of the remoulded product).
cheers
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Eeyore
still not convinced! :wink:
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I must say that I am with Eeyore on this one, despite the fact that I do regularly use remoulds on my rallying Discovery.
It is the cacasses in my opinion that are the problem. I now make an effort to pick and choose wherever possible and the carcasses do vary hugely.
Remoulds are much better than they used to be, but they are not the same as new tyres. I would say for an off road toy, then remoulds are fine (even with a bit of road use), but if it was my main car I would want new tyres. In terms of economics, I don't reckon there is much in it! New tyres will almost always significantly outlast their remould rivals. I go through a set of remoulds in about two events currently!
If you can stretch to it and do alot of road miles then I think that two sets (one for road and one for playing) makes alot of sense.
Regards
H