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Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: bombx3 on July 19, 2006, 07:57:40
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hi again ,in my 90 the old girl wanders about on the steering when on the road some times its a bit scary , ihave slack on the steering wheel when i rock it ,i have polybushed it but it made no difference.Ray
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Hi there,
Sounds like either slop in the steering box itself, or a worn drop-arm ball joint / track rod ends. Enlist some help to rock the wheel whilst you get a good peer underside.
After that, just check the UJs on the steering column. It's not likely to be them but they're quick and easy to check before moving on to....
Jacking up the front corner and checking the wheel bearings for play (grab the wheel and try to waggle it) or the swivel pins for wear (grab the wheel, try to waggle it and if it waggels up and down mor ethan side to side - that could be your cause).
HTH
Let us know how you get on. :wink:
cheers
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Eeyore
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How are the bushes on the panhard rod?
They can wear fast and cause some interesting effects when travelling down the motorway
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i had the same problem with mine, only turned out to be the drop arm itself loose, the nut had backed off and was slipping on its splined taper
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Had a very similar problem on my old 110 and it turned out to be the drop arm ball joint shot, it was scary when i saw it off, compared to the new one.
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Hi there,
Sounds like either slop in the steering box itself, or a worn drop-arm ball joint / track rod ends. Enlist some help to rock the wheel whilst you get a good peer underside.
After that, just check the UJs on the steering column. It's not likely to be them but they're quick and easy to check before moving on to....
Jacking up the front corner and checking the wheel bearings for play (grab the wheel and try to waggle it) or the swivel pins for wear (grab the wheel, try to waggle it and if it waggels up and down mor ethan side to side - that could be your cause).
HTH
Let us know how you get on. :wink:
cheers
8)
Eeyore
Thats interesting cos mines a bit like that. And I do have a bit of up down play. I was told it was wheel bearings, but it passed MOT so weren't that bothered. If it's swivel pins how do I fix that?
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Thats interesting cos mines a bit like that. And I do have a bit of up down play. I was told it was wheel bearings, but it passed MOT so weren't that bothered. If it's swivel pins how do I fix that?
The first thing I'd do would be to try and nip up the wheel bearings just in case its my imagination playing tricks. It's easy to do and swivel pins are a long and drawn out job. If you can recruit a second body, check the play again with yourself watching for movement between the hub bearing housing and the ball. If it's there, prepare yourself for a day of fun and frolics with the spanners (and a spring balance from your local angling shop).
The proper Workshop Manual has the easiest to follow description, but it involves completely disassembling the hub, removing the halfshalfts and CVs and taking the swivel ball off itself. Getting this back on is best done with a shortened spanners and bit of tube as leverage. You may have ot beat bearing shells out of the swivel (it'll be worth changing them at this poitn anyway), and you may have to beat new ones back in.
Once you've purchased the relevant seals and swivel bearings and pins (not expensive, expect to take a good day to day the job, with a second day spare just in case). Check your swivels prior to reassembly for pitting as it's all to bits. It's not that difficult, there's just a lot of it to do!
If you think there is some play in the swivel pins - check as soon as you can.
Normal comments apply: good luck, and keep us posted!
cheers
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Eeyore
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Getting this back on is best done with a shortened spanners and bit of tube as leverage.
The baby for this job in my opinion is a ratcheting spanner from Halfords!
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Thanks everyone but i cant do the job just yet ive broke my leg.wanted to get it all ready for the winter aswell.Ray
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Thanks everyone but i cant do the job just yet ive broke my leg.wanted to get it all ready for the winter aswell.Ray
Aww, nuts, dude. :(
Get on the mend then worry about the car.
cheers
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Eeyore
p.s. ratchet spanners are ace, but you'll be lucky to get enough torque on the axle flange bolts - ask me how I know! :wink:
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Get on the mend then worry about the car.
Couldn't agree more, hope it heals quickly!
p.s. ratchet spanners are ace, but you'll be lucky to get enough torque on the axle flange bolts - ask me how I know! :wink:
I find a thrash round a 10 mile off road stage normally does a good job of slackening them off for me! :lol: It may be something to do with the fact that I take them off not infrequently! :wink:
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I find a thrash round a 10 mile off road stage normally does a good job of slackening them off for me! :lol: It may be something to do with the fact that I take them off not infrequently! :wink:
Welcome to the heady world of lock-tite and torqueing stuff up over zealously!
It might also have a bearing ont the fact you have no fear of the throttle! :lol: I've seen you drive, remember - briefly I'll admit, as you came tearing past us doing 'Mach silly'.
Cor, Bombs got all this to look forward too! Chin up , dude.
cheers
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Eeyore