Mud-club
Vehicle & Technical => Defender => Topic started by: smo on July 21, 2006, 22:15:45
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Has anyone fitted these? They appear to be cheaper than the "genuine" polybushes but i'm not sure if they will give any improvement in ride or handling, or which ones to go for, the Orange (road/offroad) or Yellow (Harder compound Extreme offroad)??
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Mostly fitted here. Easier to fit than the rubber ones and a better ride (might be that my rubber ones were shot tho). Only problem I found was that I was trying to fit them to procomp shocks and their 'shanks' are shorter than the standard shocks. I was advised by deflec to take a couple of mm off with a grinder. Worked a treat.
Most have been on for nearly a year with no issues.
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Don't do it! For the extra few quid buy genuine polybush. It's a pants job changing bushes and you don't want to be doing it again in 12 months (which you will if you get deflex).
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Total pants ! :(
Why do you think they are cheaper.
I fitted a set to a 90 and they have split and have air pockets.
I got mine from Devon 4x4 at a very good price.
(bearmach blue ones):D
Check their shop for latest deals.
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Oh, so not good then!
What is the general thought on genuine poly's, worthwhile?
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I think with polyurethane bushes 'you get what you pay for'. The original Australian Supaflex ones have always served us well in the Mini market. Whereas, I have heard varying reports about some of the cheaper alternatives.
I stuck with Polybush for the LR. I see them to be in the same quality league as Supaflex.
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Whats the score with them wearing away at the metal :?: :?:
I was hoping to polybush Trug, but all the info telling me it was a bad idea put me off.
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i got genuine polybush on mine, been fitted since i built the old girl, no signs of wear and tear and still look new, ride brilliant now they have beded in :lol: 1n half year old now, 6 thou since being built, spend more time offroad than on, but still the daily drive to work, unless broken :P
wen did you say u wud be in stoke trug ?
danny
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They are fine on my rangie (blue bearmach ones) :)
but I fitted a set of black deflex ones to a customers 90 and they have worn on one side of radius arms :!:
Should not be a major issue but he has mentioned it .
I have said if he purchases new decent ones I will fit them half price. :arrow:
Seems fair I think as it is not my product that is causing problem :?:
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I have had the bearmach blues and the 'real thing'
the 'real thing' have been rubbish and I wont be buying them again - the bearmach blues were much better.
I even complained to company about them and got poo poo'd saying that I must had installed them wrong!!!!!! err how? inside out???they say their bushes are completely faultless in every way and this has never happenen before. I still have them bagged up ready to go back, these being the front radius arm 4 and the panhard rod ones.
I hope u are reading this.
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Hmm, so deflex are crap in most cases, bearmach are ok and geniune poly are ok in most cases too.
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go for bearmach blues - Devon 44 sell them
job done!
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wen did you say u wud be in stoke trug ?
danny
The Boss is here at the moment on his holiday, he will be leaving in x2 weeks until next year.
Hoping to come to Stoke the following weekend Fri-pm to Sun-pm.
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well drop me a pm wen your coming down and ill nip accross to see you, o and pm'd u aswel lol
if you can get down on the 13th (sunday) their is a luuuuvely offroading site that i am goin to wich is one of my favorite's, tag along in trug if you can make it
danny
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Danny, out of interest whats the site you refer too, you're only 10 mins up the road from me!
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Whats the score with them wearing away at the metal :?: :?:
I was hoping to polybush Trug, but all the info telling me it was a bad idea put me off.
Not sure what you mean. The poly bushes are compliant just like rubber ones. There should be no relative movement between the surface of the bush and the metal.
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They are formed under pressure, therefore if they are made in a low vacum then they would be softer. This would allow the axle to flex within the radius arms and thus wear the bushes.
I have seen this first hand on a customers 90.
Still it should not happen so buy quility ones.
I went for bearmach ones as D44 had them on offer. :idea:
I got a set off ebay recently so will be fitting those to my 90.
D44 are cheaper than bearmach too ??
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Whats the score with them wearing away at the metal :?: :?:
I was hoping to polybush Trug, but all the info telling me it was a bad idea put me off.
Not sure what you mean. The poly bushes are compliant just like rubber ones. There should be no relative movement between the surface of the bush and the metal.
ive seen the after effects of having polys fitted to an offroad vehicle that was used regularly in the mud, 2 years & the bushes were ok ish with a bit o movement,went to fit standerd bushes & they fell through the holes,required replacement radious arms to fix that problem
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Hmmm.... interesting, Mike. I guess the difference is that they are not press fit and there is a chance muck can get between the bush and the metal. Then the grit will embed itself in the bush and act like sandpaper. Also, if water can get inbetween it will corrode. The press fit standard bushes are less prone to this.
Sorry, just thinking 'out loud'. But I think it makes sense.
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Well guys.... just had all bushes replaced :D . I went with standard bushes instead of poly.
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Whats the score with them wearing away at the metal :?: :?:
I was hoping to polybush Trug, but all the info telling me it was a bad idea put me off.
Not sure what you mean. The poly bushes are compliant just like rubber ones. There should be no relative movement between the surface of the bush and the metal.
ive seen the after effects of having polys fitted to an offroad vehicle that was used regularly in the mud, 2 years & the bushes were ok ish with a bit o movement,went to fit standerd bushes & they fell through the holes,required replacement radious arms to fix that problem
standard or cranked ?
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standard front radious arms