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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: MTyrrell on July 28, 2006, 17:28:24
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Just got the 110 back from it's MOT. It failed again ](*,) ](*,) . This time it failed on the swivels that were only an advisory when it failed on Tuesday, it's only done 1.2 miles between the first and second test :?. Also failed on a UJ that wasn't even picked up first time around.
Not happy at all, apparently it was a different tester. Talk about double standards.
Do i have to go back to the same test station for a retest or can i go else where?
When i asked him to quote me for the work that needed doing he said he doesn't know and wouldn't be able to even quote me till Tuesday or Wednesday.
Took it up to the garage a who i have always used, but doesn't do MOT's, to fix. Just dumped it on his yard and gave him the certificate and asked him to sort. Had enough now somebody else can sort it!
If anyone wants to see exactly what it failed on ill post the reg and fail certificate number on here and you can have a look on the VOSA website, should be OK to do that?
And to top it all i ordered some part's for a heater and only one of the six items i ordered has been sent out.
I'm going out in the garden to shout at something now..................
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thought re test only chcked the items it failed on last time ?.
At least thats what mind did when i took it at easter time.
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I think the new system (computerised) requires a full retest. However, the fact they found different things suggests that either the first tester wasn't being thorough enough, or the second one had had a bad morning!
I'm going out in the garden to shout at something now..................
If I see a flock of very frightened Sparrows hurtling by, I shall know why!
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I thought that too, must be a new thing, like the No Free retest rule.
£39 a time three MOT's (that's if it passes third time) £117 in MOT fees. Just made me even more pee'd off now I've worked that out.
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i'd demand the money back on the first test as it was obviously not up to standard.
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I thought that too, must be a new thing, like the No Free retest rule.
£39 a time three MOT's (that's if it passes third time) £117 in MOT fees. Just made me even more pee'd off now I've worked that out.
I might be wrong, but the way I understand it, the 'puter is logged on the the DVLA while the test is carried out and they log how long the test is taking. It is expected that a 'proper' test should be something like 45 minutes, so if a test station regularly undercuts this, they are checked out.
So, because they have to fill the bay, they cannot do anything else while it's happening. So they really have to charge for the full time taken.
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I think the new system (computerised) requires a full retest. However, the fact they found different things suggests that either the first tester wasn't being thorough enough, or the second one had had a bad morning!
I'm going out in the garden to shout at something now..................
If I see a flock of very frightened Sparrows hurtling by, I shall know why!
I'd think it was the second tester been bloody minded, Seems to have a reputation for that from talking to the chap with the garage who is doing the work for me. When it failed last year the tester, the one who did it the second time, phoned up that night offering to buy it.
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I should find another MOT station for next year then.
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I thought that too, must be a new thing, like the No Free retest rule.
£39 a time three MOT's (that's if it passes third time) £117 in MOT fees. Just made me even more pee'd off now I've worked that out.
I might be wrong, but the way I understand it, the 'puter is logged on the the DVLA while the test is carried out and they log how long the test is taking. It is expected that a 'proper' test should be something like 45 minutes, so if a test station regularly undercuts this, they are checked out.
So, because they have to fill the bay, they cannot do anything else while it's happening. So they really have to charge for the full time taken.
Yeh probably about right, good way to try and stop testers cheating the system.
I wasn't disputing the price of the MOT really, just complaining about the fact that it's going to cost me that before i even have any work done.
Incidentally the chap at the test station mentioned that VOSA were brining back the free retest at the end of august. So if anyone has an mot coming up around then may be worth waiting till the new rule comes in to practice if you think it may fail.
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I use my local hgv garage as they will mot it (they have to by law) but wont find faults on it for them to fix as they are not intrested in working on them. so they are pritty good.
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i'd demand the money back on the first test as it was obviously not up to standard.
Problem is it has allready cost them money so they aren't going to give in easy. Said he'd only charge me 29 for my next Re test though, shame iIwon't be going back.
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my S3 passed its rest first time, all you have to do is a 11month, £3000 rebuild. :?
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i'd report them to VOSA, as the first test was obviously sub-standard, with any luck they'll get a visit from the ministry, and hauled over the coals...
i'd go out of my way to stich them up, the local paper might be interested, as they are always looking for storys about rogue traders.....
then find a sensible MOT station, and stick with them, there are a lot of absolute w**kers out there, most of them are just pimping for work...
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sorry to hear about your failure. my disco failed its mot a few weeks back. it failed on the front brake discs were badly warped, hand brake needed adjusting , wheel bearings needed nipped up, 1 headlight out of alignment.
the discs were done not long ago by local garage as i did have the time when they needed doing. so they put another set on without complaining. i adjusted the handbrake and the headlight and stuck it back in for its retest. it passed thank god. the mot er came out to have a word with me. he said that the garage that did the discs has done something to nearside front wheel bearing and now it should fail but he wqould let it go as he knew i would do it asoon as i got home.......
so although the mot cost me 80 squids im just glad that the moter was a good bloke. he could of sent me packing and charged me another 40 squid :evil: :evil: the new system seems to be set up to favour the garages and not the customer
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Had my TJ MOT'd couple of weeks ago...passed but I got a right bo**ocking about the amount of mud that fell off the underside during the test..... :roll: :lol: :twisted:
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The 2A passed today.
Another year of fixing things.......
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Had my hybrid tested a couple of weeks ago, the tester didn't switch on a single light, or the wipers, or the horn. In fact he didn't get in the vehicle other than when I drove him up the road to do the brake test. It passed but we had to pass alot of time talking Land Rover, with him going to find a recent mag that had a picture of my hybrid taken at the ALRC nationals before he could print off the computerised certificate.
Mike
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The free retest is a victim of the new computer system.
They have to log the vehicle on and can't log off for the same 45 mins as for the first test. The place I use does free retests if within 24 hrs or if they do the work.
Many years ago I used a place that could be arse holes depending on who you got. Sometimes this same guy would test everything again on a retest and fail it on a different thing even though he did the first test.
I stopped using them in the end
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My Disco is due on Tuesday, 10am.
I think I'll be going by the garage for a gallon of petrol before I turn up at the MOT station. :wink:
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My local garage is very good and still do retests for £20 :D (the new computerised ones and my last car was a month between test and retest)
I'm assuming this is their standard rate, unless i'm getting a bulk discount since i seem give him around 4 MOT's and 2 or 3 retests per year
:lol:
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My Disco is due on Tuesday, 10am.
I think I'll be going by the garage for a gallon of petrol before I turn up at the MOT station. :wink:
do it today, give it a few days running to make sure its mixed proper :wink:
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I have worked in the motor trade for past 14 years and a free retest is within 7 days and down to individal garage
The mot retest SHOULD be carried out by the orginal Mot Tester if they are not available you SHOULD be made aware that it needs a full test.
If vehicle has only failed certain items eg tyres and retested within 24 hours only partial test required
YES believe it or not it is down to that tester if previously advised items were advised only/boarder line fail then he can fail them.
I think that the particular garage are just being AWKWARD and UNHELPFUL and i would take it somewhere else next year if i were you
Hope this helps you if not you can call VOSA - 0870 33 00 444
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I think I'm right in saying that the amount charged for a retest is defined by the garage, not VOSA. This has always been the case and probably still is. The only difference is that the test has to take the full 45 minutes which ties up the bay and the testers time.
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:? I used to do MOT's and you where always told that if in doubt on an item you should aways pass and advise besides which what did they fail the swivels on e.g excessive play or excessive oil leak?? cheers :?
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The price for an MOT set by the government is the maximum price they can charge. They could do them for nowt if they wanted to.
The new computer system is a load of tosh. I know of vehicles being logged on to the computer while they aren't even in the garage eating up the computer time while they were doing another job.
Another garage where the records said it was a petrol and it had a diesel engine. The parked a Volvo next to the vehicle being tested and put the sensor on the Volvo's exhaust instead of the hybrid.
Ed