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Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: John T on September 18, 2006, 11:55:11
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-ULTIMATE-LANDROVER-DEFENDER-90-TDI-OFF-ROADER_W0QQitemZ330029884180QQihZ014QQcategoryZ29748QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: smo on September 18, 2006, 12:28:31
Hmm...looks familiar!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Nick666 on September 18, 2006, 12:28:34
That's disgusting. Was trying to think of a way we could screw up the sale.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Littledan on September 18, 2006, 12:30:09
we should report it to ebay!

maybe  :?
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Nick666 on September 18, 2006, 12:31:07
Nothing to report - resellers are legal, just unethical. Nothing in their T&Cs to cover what he's doing.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: smo on September 18, 2006, 12:33:47
I'm not sure he is honest in his description "i was intending on respraying the inside but didnt get around to it" etc....i smell BS!!

I've asked him very nicely how long he has owned the vehicle and how many previous owners its had....we shall see if he is honest on his response!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: UDTrev on September 18, 2006, 12:41:04
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I HAVE A BUY IT NOW FOR £8000 FOR A QUICK SALE BUT FOR SOME REASON IT WENT OF AFTER THE FIRST BID


Well dur, that's the way fleabay works - he's a clever seller aint he ? NOT !

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ONLY SELLING BECAUSE THE WIFE IS DOING HER NUT WITH ME AS WE NEED A FAMILY CAR


Anyone see bacon on the hoof looping the loop ?



Trev
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: defenderdan on September 18, 2006, 12:44:16
Having read the origonal advert when trug/i'll be back put it on ebay, i would say it is exactly the same description word for word!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: John T on September 18, 2006, 12:50:16
'heater runs and works perfectly... instantly demists screen in winter (unlike most landrovers). '

How's he know that then !!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: PUX on September 18, 2006, 13:08:32
Well its going to be poor for him as he has not set a reserve so bet it dont get anywhere near wot he thinks he wants so justice maybe served :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Range Rover Blues on September 18, 2006, 13:13:45
Let's hope it comes back into the club, and at a 'sensible' price.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: UDTrev on September 18, 2006, 13:14:33
Quick find your friendly local Nigerians  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:  :twisted:


Trev
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: paul_humphreys on September 18, 2006, 13:19:28
Quote from: "defenderdan"
Having read the origonal advert when trug/i'll be back put it on ebay, i would say it is exactly the same description word for word!


Thats the way Thug could get it removed from ebay. Its in ebays policy that you can not copy anyone elses listing.
I have had them removed for doing this :wink:

Paul
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: TDi90 on September 18, 2006, 13:49:45
omg, do i understand this properly? trug sold his motor to someone through ebay, and the guy he sold it through has put it straight back on?

discusting...
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: wing nut on September 18, 2006, 13:50:21
lets hope whoever is bidding or interested in it will check out our sight and realise there is something fishy :lol:  if i saw mud club on the side i would :lol:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: spy on September 18, 2006, 15:23:32
Have I missed something here?  He bought it and now hes selling it?  Apart from the lies in the description, whats the problem?  I assume trug sold it a price he was happy with?

It would be funny tho if it sells for less than he just bough it for!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: spy on September 18, 2006, 15:26:52
Sorry, just read the other thread!  We could at least bombard him with silly questions?  Maybe make some appointments to view?  

It sounds like he blatantly ripped trug off, thats not on.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: dew1911 on September 18, 2006, 15:31:17
Quote from: "spy"
Have I missed something here?  He bought it and now hes selling it?  Apart from the lies in the description, whats the problem?  I assume trug sold it a price he was happy with?

It would be funny tho if it sells for less than he just bough it for!


Well Trug was slightly ripped off in the sale in that some items used in part exchange weren't in the condition said.

Does anyone have Trugs origional listing as I will send it all to ebay.

EDIT: Thought I might stir things up abit
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How can you call yourself a Decent upstanding member of ebay, when you purposfully ripped someone off just to sell this on again. NONE of the stuff you gave to the old owner worked as it should (apart from the cash) and now you exepct to re sell it? Let's hope whoever buys it happens to read mud-club, then they will see what you truley are like!

:D
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: gords on September 18, 2006, 15:44:22
Quote from: "dew1911"
Does anyone have Trugs origional listing

Item number 290028300396
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: defenderdan on September 18, 2006, 16:03:52
Having just looked at the original listing again i see that it is not word for word but it is very similar :roll:    He definately suggests that he knows this vehicle considerably better than a week would allow.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: the loon on September 18, 2006, 17:04:46
haltwhistles my neck of the world so I may ask a few questions  :wink:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Sharpshooter on September 18, 2006, 17:13:52
Just sent him a few q's. :)
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 18:23:43
He's basically copied/pasted most of my wording...... what he doesnt say is the steering box is knackered, which i found out about on the day of the MOT. (he knows its knackered.)

I told him if he ever sold it to contact me 1st, he must be a dealer "obviously", dumped the celica on me and now is going to make a hefty profit on trug.

He told me the reason he had to get rid of the celica was because his wife wanted something taller (vehicle).

:twisted:... someone should tell the highest bidder near the end of the auction all about the steering and trans box.
Saying that.... i'm still getting people emailing me asking if its still for sale, as i withdrew it from auction early. So he'll get the same probably.

Nuff said :evil: ....... i'm still mighty angry about the celica, ive also found out since my last rant, an alloy wheel is warped/buckled..... not noticeable til you hit illegal speeds (my mechanic tells me).
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: bezzabsa on September 18, 2006, 18:25:48
well he didnt have the celica long either
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18290&item=320009911756
looks like hes a dealer, look at the cars in his history!! ebay might like to know this  :twisted:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Nick666 on September 18, 2006, 18:26:07
He did the same with the celica by the way - if you look through his feedback history it's in there somewhere.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 18:33:23
Quote from: "bezzabsa"
well he didnt have the celica long either
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=18290&item=320009911756
looks like hes a dealer, look at the cars in his history!! ebay might like to know this  :twisted:


Thats the one...... He just got the nose cone resprayed then dumped it on me....
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Porny on September 18, 2006, 18:41:04
At a guess, is it the front O/S (drivers) alloy that is the buckled one??


Ian
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Nick666 on September 18, 2006, 18:50:38
Actually you probably could report him to ebay for misrepresenting the vehicles as his own rather than resold vehicles.
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Post by: sleeplessparadise on September 18, 2006, 19:00:49
I asked him if there was anything given an advisement on the MOT...... just got a reply
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nothing at all the van is A1
 :shock:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 19:04:04
Quote from: "Porny"
At a guess, is it the front O/S (drivers) alloy that is the buckled one??


Ian


Its drivers rear wheel...... but it was probably originally on the front.

It would be nice if a mud-club member (made highest bid) bought the vehicle..... then knocked him down to accept £4k due to faulty steering box

Does he mention scratches down both sides? perhaps he's polished them out

He is probably watching what is said on this site..... slippery git
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: att on September 18, 2006, 20:22:17
You could also report him to the tax man.
I guess you have his name and address and you can do it anonomousley.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 20:30:11
Att, good idea :wink: .

Whoever does buy Trug is going to be getting a very good landrover, its probably worth £6.5k no more.
I put my buy it now price at £8k, but no way is it worth that much.
All it needs is a steering box, and trans box needs attention (keeps jumping out of low box, ever since i dragged a crashed car with no front wheels across a field and up an embankment, then along a road for 100yrds).
Also..... front wheels catch arches under very xtreme articulation, but that can be sorted no prob, as they only catch at the bottom rear. A 1cm trim would fix it.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: blade on September 18, 2006, 20:35:04
heres my questions waiting 4 reply


how long have you owned who did the mods and how do they affect the insurance
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 18, 2006, 20:36:45
give me 2 secs & ill ask him a good few questions?
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 18, 2006, 20:41:01
"Hi mate,did you manage to get the scratches out that the motor recived whist at drumclog earlyer in the year? im guessing it was yourself that was the owner as he was pretty gutted about the state of the paint work.
was wondering if it suffers from the usual judder back through the steering due to the big wheels & the damper no being able to cope?
 do you know if the drop arm UJ coupling has been upgraded for the big tyres?

Im very interested in the motor...

Michael Robertson"
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: extreme90 on September 18, 2006, 21:03:12
every 1 bombard the T*** with questions i sent him 5  :lol:
its the least we can do since he ripped our very good friend off  :shock:
jarrod did you say your down this weekend ??
i mite be able to come for a drink with you
depends if i have the engine rebuilt intime  :cry:
danny
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: extreme90 on September 18, 2006, 21:12:23
ok jus sent some more q's
asked him how long he owned vehical
if he had ever had and overheating problems as they prone to it
if there play in steerin box and few others
just about use my friends account to ask some more  :lol:
danny
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 21:15:23
Nice one guys..... :twisted: .

Yeah am down saturday afternoon, i'll give you a ring when i get there.

Mike, do you want the tent for clog :?:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Xtremeteam on September 18, 2006, 21:18:31
na chief,im sorted (i think) Eh miniman
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: extreme90 on September 18, 2006, 21:19:44
ok jarrod i sent him 14 questions over all now over 3 accounts  :twisted:
well hack him slowely wont we guys  :wink:
err ill try to have my 90 up and running again for then
since she packed up thursday night on me big time !!  :cry:  :cry:
danny
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Edge on September 18, 2006, 21:25:01
He's lying in his answer to questions at bottom of auction, rear chassis has  had plates welded, passenger swivel is pitted and leaking, steering box has play in it. He did not answer that its got 141K+ miles on the clock.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Mudmonkey on September 18, 2006, 21:29:39
Well i dont post very much on here but stuff like this really gets on my t*ts and especially as hes ripped of another member so i'll send him a few questions too!! :twisted:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Nick666 on September 18, 2006, 21:31:49
Reported as fraudulent auction, we'll see what ebay thinks to it.
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Post by: Mudmonkey on September 18, 2006, 21:35:43
Sent a question and called it a jeep so i looked like a newbie :P  :wink:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: floyd fan on September 18, 2006, 21:48:09
Sent a pm to the highest bidder pointing him at this thread. At the price it is now he would still get a bargain, but knowing how HONEST the seller is may stop him from going too high.
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: blade on September 18, 2006, 21:57:01
what like this
heres some info on the 90 your bidding on
rear chassis has had plates welded, passenger swivel is pitted and leaking, steering box has play in it. He did not answer that its got 141K+ miles on the clock.
jumps out of low range transfer box is shot hes only owened it about a week
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: spy on September 18, 2006, 22:31:42
Well i just emailed every bidder in the list with a link to this thread!  Its only fair that they should know the real truth!  If its got unmentioned faults hes trying to rip off new bidders.

My ebay username is landyworld-co-uk so hopefuly that will have some credability.  There is a good chance that some of the bidders are his friends, its very common on more pricey items.  Lets see what replies I get.  The only one ive had so far just said "thank you"!

Mike
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Post by: blade on September 19, 2006, 06:02:24
its ended so where now
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Post by: dew1911 on September 19, 2006, 07:08:12
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The seller ended this listing early because the item was lost or broken.


Looks like we've shamed him into stopping it. :lol:
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Post by: Edge on September 19, 2006, 07:42:49
from the response i got when i listed it...... some one has probably offered him a good swap deal. I had loads of offers...
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Post by: Edge on September 19, 2006, 08:00:35
In fact..... still getting emails, just found this one in my in box

Hi Jarrod

Sorry to hassle you again, but are you aware that Trug is being resold on ebay using your orginal advert word for word. I am still interested the landy but not really into people making a profit from others hard work. Any chance you would be willing to share the price he paid for Trug as I dont want this guy to profit to ridiclous levels.

If you dont wont to then thats cool, no worries.

Good luck with your next V8 Project.

Earle
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Post by: TDi90 on September 19, 2006, 09:09:39
thats nice... so what has happend with trug now, does that B***** still have it? is he going to try and re sell it through ebay?
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Post by: UDTrev on September 19, 2006, 09:15:18
Watch for it appearing in Autotrader soon !


Trev :evil:  :evil:  :evil:  :evil:
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: spy on September 19, 2006, 20:53:55
Well i have just received loads of emails from bidders.  Most of them in fact.  All seem rather grateful for my input!  If one of the bidders I emailed was him / his mate that would probably make him remove it!


Mike
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: M19 ROO on October 01, 2006, 22:27:16
hmmmmm after speakin to jarrod (i'll be back) and reading through this thread i feel a little sik to be honest!
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: Jim-Willy on October 02, 2006, 00:43:22
Quote from: "M19 ROO"
hmmmmm after speakin to jarrod (i'll be back) and reading through this thread i feel a little sik to be honest!


Whats up with it matey?  they are just big meccano sets, it isn't old enough to be terminal.
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Post by: smog on October 02, 2006, 03:26:35
This is actually about it being morally wrong more than anything else, and to be honest nowadays morals are lacking in far too many people as is evident in this individual’s case.

I genuinely hope the guy who lied then resold it contracts a STD, bits fall off him, his wife leaves him and that his dog dies in some freak accident involving a banjo and a canary.
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Post by: snezza69 on October 02, 2006, 06:51:36
Sorry, don't quite get the bit about the canary?

 :(biglaugh):
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Post by: sleeplessparadise on October 02, 2006, 07:23:28
Well he wont be selling anything on ebay under that particular ID anymore cos he is no longer a registered user :lol:
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Post by: Edge on October 02, 2006, 10:24:38
The new owner of trug seems a decent bloke, ive been intouch and told him exactly whats what with trug. At the end of the day he's bought a very decent 90.... which will run good for many years, loads of parts are brand new, just needs trans linkage??? seeing to and a passenger swivel.

Edit passenger swivel is slightly pitted and will last over 12mths as it is.
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Post by: dew1911 on October 02, 2006, 10:27:25
Quote from: "M19 ROO"
hmmmmm after speakin to jarrod (i'll be back) and reading through this thread i feel a little sik to be honest!


At the end of the day you have done nothing wrong my friend, it was that inbred prat...
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Post by: Jim-Willy on October 02, 2006, 19:07:27
Quote from: "i'll be back"
The new owner of trug seems a decent bloke.


Glad to hear it we will help him break it in (or just break it :lol: ) 8)
Title: I'll be back (Trug) - This may interest you !
Post by: sleeplessparadise on October 02, 2006, 19:28:56
Yep looking forward to meeting him next sunday if he comes laning with us :wink:
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