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Title: Damn cat
Post by: thermidorthelobster on September 28, 2006, 19:14:39
I've just done a high-speed (legal) run to the vet's with a pigeon that the cat mauled, little sod.  They took one look at it and put it to sleep, which was sort of what I was expecting.

So, can anybody come up with a humane way to kill a dying bird, so if it happens again I can spare it the stressful trip to the vet?

I could have just rung it's neck, but it's actually quite unpleasant to do that if you're not used to it.  Running it over with the Discovery was an option, but there's scope for that to go horribly wrong.

Any suggestions?  Humane ones only please!
Title: Damn cat
Post by: strapping young lad on September 28, 2006, 19:19:09
i dont think that there is any way humane to do it other than snap its neck..

unless you have a hatchett handy

not joking either...

but if its the conscience tugging you then a vet trip is your only option.

what if the bird was fine and you killed it ;)
Title: Damn cat
Post by: blade on September 28, 2006, 19:33:18
let the cat finish its job then neck the cat no more dead birds easy
Title: Damn cat
Post by: thumbs on September 28, 2006, 19:41:04
hit square on with a shoval, will be dead instantly!

point a shotgun at it, their wont be any bird left  :D  not the most humane way but will defo do the job!
Title: Damn cat
Post by: dew1911 on September 28, 2006, 19:57:33
Quote from: "blade"
let the cat finish its job then neck the cat no more dead birds easy

 =D>  =D>  =D> Very well said that man! :lol:
Title: Damn cat
Post by: skip on September 28, 2006, 20:05:21
failing that a wheel brace over the back of the head should do it. it's a bit more up close and personal, hi risk of blood spatter
Title: Damn cat
Post by: Wanderer on September 28, 2006, 20:10:09
Running it over with the 101 might do the trick.

Ed
Title: Damn cat
Post by: strapping young lad on September 28, 2006, 20:15:23
you said the trip to the vet would be stressful

think of the situation faced by the bird when a feline comes running up and has a bash at it


thing is what the hell was the pigeon doing somewhere near the cat?

it has wings!

fly off somewhere that the cat cannot get to...

like another tree ;)
Title: Damn cat
Post by: att on September 28, 2006, 20:32:45
I always let my cat finish the job, it is nature and I am only a Human, who am I to interfere in such things that I do not really understand.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: thermidorthelobster on September 28, 2006, 21:25:38
Trouble is, cat doesn't do a nice clean job, and then it sods off in the middle of it.  The cat's only doing what cats do, but I won't be getting another one!
Title: Damn cat
Post by: tomarse on September 28, 2006, 21:30:41
I always let the cat finish them off too. If the victim is obviously still intact I might chase the cat off, but they are usually too far gone by the time i see them.

It's only the natural order of things. I like to think that the cat only catches the stupid/slow mice/birds/rabbits and in that way is doing its part to improve the quality of the animal stock over time! :)
Title: Damn cat
Post by: Sheddy on September 28, 2006, 23:57:17
Wringing a birds neck is an artform.  Do it wrong and you'll end up with either a live bird with a sprained neck or the head in one hand andthe body inthe other.

Stamp on its head if in doubt.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: hrh_dave on September 29, 2006, 00:10:56
From a harvesters point of view a quick sturdy blow to the back of the head with a large stick like a walking stick will dispatch a bird as it wringing a birds neck is not as easy as it sounds.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: sleeplessparadise on September 29, 2006, 07:29:43
We saw a pigeon die in our garden the other day....... was awful ....... and before you ask why we didnt stop it by the time we knew what was happening it was too late........ it wasnt being eaten by a pet of ours or anything....... it was a kestrel that had brought it down in our garden :( All that was left were a few feathers when it was all over!
Title: Damn cat
Post by: SixPot on September 29, 2006, 09:36:41
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it was a kestrel that had brought it down in our garden


A most impressive sight if you are lucky enough to see it.

whatever method you choose to send the bird to its maker make it quick as possible. I go for pulling the neck but have done it since I was a nipper.

Was a woody? they make a lovely lunch pan fried breast mixed with green salad drizzled with a honey and balsamic dressing mmmmmmmmm.   :(contented):
Title: Damn cat
Post by: tomarse on September 29, 2006, 11:56:20
Quote from: "SixPot"
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it was a kestrel that had brought it down in our garden


A most impressive sight if you are lucky enough to see it.


I watched a hawk bring down a smaller bird the other day too. It is quite impressive. The hawk took a lot longer over it than the cat does!

With the hawk it spent a good few minutes sortof stomping on and rolling the little bird on the floor before it could eat it. The cat just dispatches them quickly and then spends time playing with the corpse.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: TDi90 on September 29, 2006, 12:25:06
we go shooting a lot, the best way is to grab its head, and pull , but not right off!! just enough to snap it...

sorted.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: bobtail4x4 on September 29, 2006, 13:05:42
hold the head between finger and thumb, flick the bird over the back of your hand and stop, the impetus will break its neck.

you could always do what I have seen royalty do, bite the birds skull to kill it, really. :roll:
Title: Damn cat
Post by: thermidorthelobster on September 29, 2006, 15:54:42
Quote from: "sleeplessparadise"
it was a kestrel that had brought it down in our garden

Hmmm.... do you reckon your kestrel could be tempted by a 5KG cat?
Title: Damn cat
Post by: hrh_dave on September 29, 2006, 16:02:32
possibly as they will take rabbits quiet happily. dont see why they wont take a cat....

Disco got a woody on the way home at lunchtime yesterday luckily no damage done  but the pigeon Im afraid didnt make it....


Dave
Title: Damn cat
Post by: johnpirate on September 29, 2006, 16:07:35
There is a humane small bird killing tool thats sold through some of the Shooting mags .When I find a copy I will post the companies name.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: Moneypit on September 29, 2006, 16:25:58
Slightly off topic, but on the same theme.

I seem to recall that the reason a cat will not kill cleanly, but brings the prey into the house or to you, is because they never see you hunting and so are trying to teach you as they would a kitten!
Title: Damn cat
Post by: smog on September 30, 2006, 01:28:30
I have 2 cats both male, one if he were human would wear a pink dress and frequent bars where there is only a male toilets, the other is like a night club bouncer.

One beats em up the other eats em, funnily enough though one is a 'birder' the other a 'mouser' (made up words but you know what i mean.

To be honest we have had a number of half dead animals of all sorts including a squirrel, crow, pigeon and a whole load of little birds that have been dispatched with, using a hammer.
Title: Damn cat
Post by: clbarclay on September 30, 2006, 08:20:00
My choice of humane bird killing involves stunning electrically followed by a knife through the neck to bleed them...

Not worth doing to something your not going to eat though, plus you need a licence to humanely kill in this way.



At home we tend to leave the cats too it, they get a bit of food to keep them around, but there not pets and do a fantastic job of rodent control.
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