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Chat & Social => The Bar - General Chat => Topic started by: dreadnought110 on October 17, 2006, 07:04:04
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:? Rear fog's how do you use your's? It was foggy on the way into work this morning and the usual rear fog's where on.. It drives me nuts doesn't anyone read the highway code anymore? :?
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god i hate them with avengance. does my head in when people put them on in the rain and stuff like that or little bit of mist :x
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I think we have only ever had one occasion where we needed to use rear fogs and that was about 16 years ago driving down to Dover..... couldnt even see the end of the bonnet but we still had some numpty fly past us at 60 miles an hour :evil:
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It was foggy on the way into work this morning and the usual rear fog's where on.
OK clearly I'm an ignorant swine (no surprise there then :D) ... when ARE they supposed to be used if not when it's foggy?
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I thought that once someone was behind you and can be seen easily, then you switch yours off, unless the fog gets really bad again.
Can't stand when used not in fog, on a bike at night in the rain it is nearly as bad as someone driving at you with main beam on, can't see nuffin.
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I've been backeneded several times and I have NO faith in other drivers. Sorry but if it helps me be seen, if its reasonably foggy or absolutely leaking it down they go on. In and about town though, no, no point.
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HIGHWAY CODE says :
94: You MUST NOT
* use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users
* use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves to avoid dazzling other road users.
Law RVLR reg 27
201: You MUST use headlights when visibility is seriously reduced, generally when you cannot see for more than 100 metres (328 feet). You may also use front or rear fog lights but you MUST switch them off when visibility improves (see Rule 211).
Law RVLR regs 25 & 27
211: You MUST NOT use front or rear fog lights unless visibility is seriously reduced (see Rule 201) as they dazzle other road users and can obscure your brake lights. You MUST switch them off when visibility improves.
Law RVLR regs 25 & 27
Think rear fogs have their place but rarely do we get conditions here where they are necessary
Interesting the HC mentions the part I have italicised tho' :?
Front fog lights on the other hand really irritate - just another peace of jewellery for most :evil:
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HIGHWAY CODE says :
94: You MUST NOT
* use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users
and look at his avatar!!
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HIGHWAY CODE says :
94: You MUST NOT
* use any lights in a way which would dazzle or cause discomfort to other road users
and look at his avatar!!
Hehe
TBH I'd rather take my chances with the law. I'be been backended in poor conditions by four cars, each time they say they didnt see the car and its actually made me really nervous in harsh weather. The second one reduced my metro van to junk. I also run with my sidelights on at all times. When the rest of the road users obey the highway code and dont use cellphones/strp kids in/do make up or wear their glasses then I'll consider not making myself as visible as possible. Oh and my brakelights are mounted at least 10" from my fogs, so no confusion there.
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If I get pulled I'll take my glasses of and tell the cops I had reduced visibility :lol: might work :twisted:
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I tend to work on the principle that if visibility is poor, then I'll switch my rear fogs on until I can see the headlights of the car behind. Then I'll switch my fogs off. If that car disappears, put the fogs back on etc etc...
The other morning it was foggy but most cars just had sidelights on. Those that had headlights on were visible at twice the distance.
Following one guy, I knew he was there 'cause he had his rear fogs on, I couldn't see the three cars between him and me though :shock:
Steve.
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Also, has anyone else noticed that it's usually the silver/grey cars who's drivers tend not to use any illumination at all in the murk ?
There was the usual parade of poorly set front fog-lamps in the 200yards+ visibilty this morning at 08:00.
Still it made a change from just seeing all the numptys using them in broad daylight & sunshine as they tend to do on every other day of the weeek.
I saw someone with a B*W the other day whilst I was talking to an Ambulance crew outside the unit.
He had fogs on (circa 18:00 & a clear evening)
I asked him it had been foggy where he'd been, after I pointed them out & what they were, he swore blind that they were marker lights
"Never seen 55watt markers" quoth I
"Yeah, so what" was his response
Co-incidentally a traffic car came down then, as the officers had come to speak to a RTA victim.
They soon explained to him what they were & when to use them :lol:
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Don't get me started on these.....
I use them in very poor visibility.Thick fog.Very heavy rain and sometimes when driving into a low glearing sun.
As soon as I have a car behind me I switch them off.
The Saturday morning of the Peterborough show I was travelling down the A1M in North Yorkshire.It was misty but not foggy.I caught up with one of those imitation Highways Police vehicles.A new Land Rover Discovery EU05 CCD.This vehicle was running with rear fog lights on.
I complained to the highways Agency.
I recieved a 'phone call from somebody at the agency who refused to give me his name.
I'll quote him
" Rear fog lights must be used at all times when fog is less tha 200 meters".
I queried this and asked about when a car was stationary in front of you in a town in traffic.
He repeated the at all times bit.
I can tell you all I went further over this.
Still neither the Highways Agency or the DOT seem to know the rules.They both pointed me in the direction od the DVLA.....
Sans parole.
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And as for people who 'forget' their headlights are on full beam when they come up behind you! grrrrrr, more than once I've turned my lights off totally.... illegal but it sure shakes them up, they think I'm a nutter and steer clear of me after that!
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followed a few people this morning on the M54 with fogs on..ok so it wasnt below 100yds but it was misty...what annoys me is when they leave them on and carry on into a 30 zone (in traffic!) with them still on. they dazzle you and make it difficult to see brake lights :(
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It was the same this morning
Some stretches of circa 100yards visibilty as the road crosses the Aire & Calder Navigation (canal) & the River Calder, then patches of intermittant mist up the hill to the school
Usual suspects; (mainly silver) cars without a jot of lighting & drives on bl**dy phones :x (complete with kids in)
I suppose you notice silver cars a lot more with it being the one of the most popular colours?